Brian Thanks for set me back on track,I'm truly happy to be a member of this forum!
When I was young, everytime I saw a person taking a lesson and hit they hit a slice, the pro would then pose a funky "hands forward" position as the REASON for the right-to-right shot.
Something like the position that Jim Hardy poses in for the so-called "stuck-behind-you" position.
These pros just don't really
know, ya know?
Ben Hogan, Byron Nelson, Moe Norman, Art Wall (Masters champ who made 40+aces), Lee Trevino, Sergio Garcia, etc.
ALL HAD VERY FORWARD HANDS AND COULD HIT IT STRAIGHTER THAN YOU COULD POINT!!!!!
So "accumulator lag" is something that is often blamed for a variety of maladies, but in the long run:
JUST FIX THE PATH AND THE CLUBFACE and make the PIVOT help the cause and be done with it.
Of course, what would they have to sell?
After watching "Confessions of a former flipper" and I just finish reading Bobby Clamppett "Impact Zone", It hit me, I'm trying to lose one of the imperative that I actually own naturally, MY LAG!
As seen in the Pictures 2 Years ago, I almost had no Lag,
but in the proccess of building my swing my Body developed sort of feeling for getting the hands forward of the ball and the clubhead lagging behind them.
The problem with MY DRIVER is that I really never learn how to release that angle (left arm - shaft) at seperation or after that, so THE FEELING with my hands forward is that I'm using my shoulder going through the ball like in PUTTING! and holding back with an angled hinge, not really releasing the accumulators (2nd and 3rd I think, Right elbow and angle of left arm - shaft.
I work a lot by trial and error, experimenting ( ball position, setup/address height, distance from the ball, plane, axis tilt, release, grip and much more),
I sometime rather go practice short game and new ideas working on my swing than go out and play( I feel that I don't want engraining more of my faults before I know how and why to fix them).
and really I got to a point, well.. hitting the wall.
I really don't know what's right anymore...looking for the pop instructions tips or just stick with the "Yellow Book",
and after 2-3 days of experimenting with delagging the clubhead I got reasonable results ( I'm a good athlete) with my shots but the feeling of the punching sweet spot hit with the lag that I had with my iron were gone and my driver also suffer a bit so...
Back to the beginning, fix the clubface and getting ball airbone consistently with my long irons\driver.
This is my swing 2.5 years ago ( when I start playing) and my swing today, and a few pros swingvision swings (the preview window is at lower half of the page):
http://files.filefront.com/7436346
My faults as I see it (50% is perhaps only my imagination)
1.loosing Spine angle at impact ( probley from all this throwing and not sustaing lag).
2."closed" clubface during the whole swing(Brian you have to agree with me on this one), Can't release the clubhead with my driver, irons are ok,(I think it's more mentally).
3.Pivot, getting closer to the plane line/ball with my lower body.
4.Sometimes over the top clubhead path.
5.I get too Punchy and low ball flight.
6.Grip, at the top of my backswing I REGRIP before start down.
Again, there are many factors why the swing doesn't work
on the course like at the practice range, I think is more mentally, I've been playing only for a year and I'm trying to understand this, with this game I THINK 85% IS IN YOUR MIND AND IF YOU GOT YOUR FUNDAMENTALS AND THE IMPERATIVES THAN YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK, AND THE GAME/PRACTICE IS MUCH MORE FUN AND EASY.
There are few ways to swing the club but for consistent result you've got to know why, how and what you're doing and work work work.
Garcia has a lot of lag and his hands are so fast the he releasing the angle just before impact without flipping.
The left arm and shaft almost vertical line at seperation without losing lag!