Does swivel = hard release?

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self-mastery

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What is the meaning of swivel and hard release? Yesterday while watching, TGC Rick Smith mentioned that he wanted "Lefty" to swing with a hard release cut. I'm guessing that for a lefty cut shots draw.
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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I think he meant he wanted him to have a full release or swivel but STILL hit a fade.

Some people try to hold off the release to hit a fade and this isn't the best scenario in my opinion.
 
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6bee1dee

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TGM is so often criticized from having a difficulty language when in fact the terminology alleviates ambiguous and imprecise terms for students like “hard” release.
 
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densikat

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If I am reading correctly he is suggesting fading the ball with a horizontal hinge. If that is the case the ball must be positioned further back in the stance
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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quote:Originally posted by self-mastery

thanks for ressponding. Would the ball need to be right of center in the stance to hit a fade.
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I'm not sure what you mean...but with a driver and woods to have a full release (horizontal hinge) and hit a fade the ball needs to be further back in your stance or you can just open your plane (which is what i do)
 
mgjordan

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The problem is that "release" means different things in the TGM world and the "traditional" instruction world. I am assuming Rick Smith was using "release" to mean turning the club or swiveling. However, with a swinger you have a pre-impact swivel before the hinge and then you have a post-impact swivel back up the plane after seperation so I'm not sure which he is referring to. I am guessing he was really talking about a horizontal hinge.
 
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MizunoJoe

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Rick Smith, in the familiar 'Top 50' tradition, uses the word "release" to mean swivel, forearm rotation, onset of wrist uncocking, or just "letting go". Whatever best fits in his current Golf (In)Digest(ion) article.
 
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densikat

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His ballflight is anything he wants it to be I believe. Being on plane and having fantastic impact alignments kinda do that for you :)
 
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MizunoJoe

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birdie,

Yes, his bread and butter was a push fade. In the mid 80s he played in a charity event. On the range, he was hitting 150 yd push fade 9 irons, and told his caddie, Herman, "grab some of these range balls - I can't hit no 9 iron 150 yds".
 
birdie_man

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Haha...that sounds like something he'd say.

Ya that does seem like a long way for him to hit a ball though...hell that's a long 9 iron even today, never mind in the 80s.
 
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