Draws, Fades, Power, and Football.
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A Blonde is watching the news with her husband when the newscaster says,
"Two Brazilian men die in a skydiving accident."
The blonde starts crying and says to her husband while sobbing
"That's horrible!!! So many men dying that way!"
Confused the husband replies "Yes dear, it is sad, but they were skydiving, and there is always that risk involved."
After a few minutes, the blonde, still sobbing, says,
"... So how many is a Brazilian?"
"Two Brazilian men die in a skydiving accident."
The blonde starts crying and says to her husband while sobbing
"That's horrible!!! So many men dying that way!"
Confused the husband replies "Yes dear, it is sad, but they were skydiving, and there is always that risk involved."
After a few minutes, the blonde, still sobbing, says,
"... So how many is a Brazilian?"
Zuback won the most titles, and is the the all-time greatest in the sport, but Sadlowski is the man at the moment. Jamie has a higher ball speed than that (I think 214 at the finals last year); I think the record was for fastest ball in sport, which is a golf ball hit by a long drive competitor. But a lot of those guys, including Zuback, can hit faster than 204. He also broke Z's record for the longest ball hit in the finals.
Jamie also fades the ball when playing for score, and Zuback always hit a cut. I think Brian's point was that you don't have to hit a draw to play good golf, and many of the best ballstrikers in history hit the ball either straight or with a fade.
Neither Jamie or Jason have the official world record for longest recorded drive. But I will say that, having seen Jamie hit 230 yard 7 irons, 250 yard 5 irons, 300+ yard hybrids, etc., I would be hard pressed to find someone consistently longer in the world right now; he's #1 right now. And at his age, while he's not the greatest yet, he has a legitimate chance to surpass Zuback as the GOAT.
Wilson!
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That's a tres dedos, i.e. a "three fingers". It's called that way because the player hits the ball with the external side of his foot, and feels the impact roughly in the zone of the three fingers that are closer to the external side. It's really difficult! But shots like that do trick any goalkeeper.
Wilson!
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That's for sure! Great players hit fades, draws and dead straights, but they all have what Nick Price calls a "draw type" swing:
Nick Price said:
Richie3Jack
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Soccer style kicking is done because the kicker's can practice more since it doesn't put as much stress on the leg.
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spider
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I really think soccer style kick in both sports is more for consistency. Pretty obvious as to why imo. Approaching from the side the foot travels "flatter" into ball less likely up or down miss. Same with left or right miss. Easier to miss with straight on style left or right side of foot.
Length however is debatable.
I'll leave to you golf experts to figure out how this relates to golf swing.
Length however is debatable.
I'll leave to you golf experts to figure out how this relates to golf swing.
birly-shirly
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What is it about golf that we need to draw on all these other (usually more athletic) sports for metaphors, analogies and proofs? Off the top of my head, I can think of football, tennis, boxing (!), fly fishing and even figure-skating having been wheeled out to prove this point or that.
I'm trying to imagine a group of brazilian footballers sitting in the pub arguing about whether it's better to run up to the ball straight or curved. And then I'm trying to imagine one of them saying - "I think your run-up should be curved. Haven't you seen the inside handpath in a Stack and Tilt golfswing?"
Doesn't work, does it?
I'm trying to imagine a group of brazilian footballers sitting in the pub arguing about whether it's better to run up to the ball straight or curved. And then I'm trying to imagine one of them saying - "I think your run-up should be curved. Haven't you seen the inside handpath in a Stack and Tilt golfswing?"
Doesn't work, does it?
Brian Manzella
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I don't use goofy references like this. And, I don't throw out a term like "Angular Momentum" unless I ask a Zick or a Wood.
I was REFUTING some obviously misguided stuff.
birly-shirly
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C'mon Brian.
A. That wasn't aimed at your first post.
B. Everyone reading this thread KNOWS where the soccer kick analogy came from.
C. I'm also making a somewhat serious point.
A. That wasn't aimed at your first post.
B. Everyone reading this thread KNOWS where the soccer kick analogy came from.
C. I'm also making a somewhat serious point.
Brian Manzella
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C'mon Birly!
More Angular Momentum DOES NOT EQUAL more clubhead speed, better path. better clubface, prettier wife, faster car, NOTHING.
It means MAYBE more "Angular Momentum."
Period.
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birly-shirly
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Great.
I also happen to agree with your first post, especially the bit about upright and flat swings. I don't think you're saying upright is better than flat - just that there's more than one way to skin a cat. I've had that same debate with Dariusz umpty times. We're as entrenched as ever
The point was those "goofy references" and why (present company excepted) golf is awash with them.
Brian Manzella
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I'm down with the struggle, my Brother.
birdie_man
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I have no idea where the soccer kick analogy came from!
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