Faldo's comments on Tiger

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What did you guys think about Sir Nick's comments on Tiger, " He fragile", " His excuse about being too relaxed, I don't buy for a second"

Pretty tough feedback. The expectations are so crazy for Tiger it's insane. I'm not a Tiger fan, but for crying out loud, the guy finished 40th, T21, T3, T11, in the majors and won three events.

In addition, he had four other top ten finishes.

I guess the only thing he can do is win every major, or he's underperforming.
 
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Well, he had a shot at the US Open and the PGA and just crapped his pants on the weekend. We're not used to seeing that at all. It's either start strong and finish strong, or just blow up in the first place and not even make the weekend.
 
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I thought he was close this week, just couldn't seem to figure out what to do with the left to right wind. He either pulled it into the wind and it stayed on line, ending up left, or when he tried to ride the wind, it went too far right.

He's playing well, I think people forget how damn tough it is to win a major.
 
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Tball88 said:
What did you guys think about Sir Nick's comments on Tiger, " He fragile", " His excuse about being too relaxed, I don't buy for a second"

Pretty tough feedback. The expectations are so crazy for Tiger it's insane. I'm not a Tiger fan, but for crying out loud, the guy finished 40th, T21, T3, T11, in the majors and won three events.

In addition, he had four other top ten finishes.

I guess the only thing he can do is win every major, or he's underperforming.
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The concerning thing is that he had the 36 hole lead in 2 majors this year and right out of the gate on Saturday $h!t the bed both times. Before 2009 who would have ever believed that would happen?

I don't expect him to win every major, but if he gets in contention through 36 I would expect him to not shoot himself out of it after 5-7 holes on Saturday.
 
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Tiger himself said he came out Saturday and tried to play with a "loose" mindset, then said that was a bad idea and went against his nature.

When a player with 14 majors starts to look for new mindsets for the next round after sleeping on a 36 hole lead, that should tell you all you need to know about his fragility.

Get used to it folks.
 
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I don't know how much I buy into this kind of crap...and he may already be using one - but if anyone ever could use a sports ( and a regular one for that matter ) psychologist, it's Woods.
 
magicmarker

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At least he ditched the new mindset after realizing it did not work for him. He should've done the same thing with his current putter a looooooooong time ago. JMO
 
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His putting and wedges are his main problem now. I think he is playing very well tee to green, but I don't understand the wedges flying 10 yards too far. These will kill you. These are the scoring clubs. He should be averaging 10' feet on these shots, but he's giving himself difficult up and downs from over the green. Does anyone think his new swing has reduced his spinloft on the wedges, giving him unwanted distance on these shots?
 
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ms1170 said:
His putting and wedges are his main problem now. I think he is playing very well tee to green, but I don't understand the wedges flying 10 yards too far. These will kill you. These are the scoring clubs. He should be averaging 10' feet on these shots, but he's giving himself difficult up and downs from over the green. Does anyone think his new swing has reduced his spinloft on the wedges, giving him unwanted distance on these shots?
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A pretty smart guy on here this:


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PS, I kind of laugh when people get excited that Tiger brought back the stinger. With no dynamic loft, what else have you got? You just end up with a bag full of stingers.
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Tiger Stats and Theory

So much work on the "Swing" - stats show long game is very good and 125 yards in and putting from 10-20' are very poor. Not a Tiger fan but I would look out for next year - assuming confidence settles in on full swing and he devotes some more time to the short game - he'll be back next year - strong!

Approaches from > 200 yards 42' 5" 3rd - -
Scrambling from > 30 yards 32.14% 41st - -
GIR Percentage - 100-125 yards 75.00% 104th -125 yards - 51 -
GIR Percentage - 75-100 yards 76.47% 141st 100 yards - 13 -
GIR Percentage - < 75 yards 93.51% 12th yards - 72 -
GIR Percentage - 200+ yards 52.63% 14th + yards - 40 -
GIR Percentage - 175-200 yards 67.65% 1st -200 yards - 69 -
GIR Percentage - 150-175 yards 65.91% 42nd -175 yards - 87 -
GIR Percentage - 125-150 yards 71.84% 62nd -150 yards - 74 -
GIR Percentage - < 125 yards 83.95% 41st 5 yards - 136 -
GIR Percentage - < 100 yards 90.43% 12th 0 yards - 85 -
Approaches from 100-125 yards 19' 7" 80th 125 yards - 1,055.667 -
Approaches from 75-100 yards 20' 3" 168th 00 yards - 404.417 -
Approaches from 50-75 yards 17' 11" 144th 5 yards - 89.500 -
Approaches from 175-200 yards 29' 7" 1st 200 yards - 2,511.750 -
Approaches from 150-175 yards 26' 2" 20th 175 yards - 2,409.833 -
Approaches from 125-150 yards 22' 10" 71st 150 yards - 1,803.167 -
Approaches from 50-125 yards 19' 7" 134th 25 yards - 1,549.583 -
Approaches from 200-225 yards 35' 6" 9th 225 yards - 1,882,333 -
Approaches from 225-250 yards 48' 10" 53rd 250 yards - 1,710,083 -
Approaches from > 275 yards 49' 9" 2nd yards - 49,750 -
Approaches from 250-275 yards 52' 2" 6th 275 yards - 730,500 -
Putting from Inside 5' 96.94% 40th age - Insi - 458 de 5' - 444
Putting from 5-10' 60.00% 27th age - 5-10 - 125 ' - 75
Putting from - 10-15' 27.47% 134th ' - 91 -
Putting from - 15-20' 12.31% 182nd ' - 65 -
Putting from - 20-25' 19.23% 7th ' - 52 -
Putting from - > 25' 6.85% 36th - -
Putting from 5-15' 46.30% 76th - -
Putting from 15-25' 15.38% 82nd ' - 117 -
Putting from 3-5' 90.80% 20th - -
 
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mgranato said:
Tiger himself said he came out Saturday and tried to play with a "loose" mindset, then said that was a bad idea and went against his nature.

When a player with 14 majors starts to look for new mindsets for the next round after sleeping on a 36 hole lead, that should tell you all you need to know about his fragility.

Get used to it folks.
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When the world tells you you're gaga, you tend to start looking for new mind sets.

When he gets his confidence back and tell the world to KMA, he will be back. IF IF IF he can use his new swing effectively for the shorter shots.
 
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I disagree that Tiger is playing well from tee to green. Although he has good stretches where he is in control of the ball, he hits the crookedest shots of anyone out there - usually smothered left.

It is one thing to miss some shots, but it is the distance offline that Tiger hits shots that leaves me unimpressed and doubtful that he can catch Jack. Just look at his PGA Sunday round, for instance.
 
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