"Fitting" in hybrids (no gaps)

[curtisj76]

Well, I hit an Adams Pro Gold "4 iron" yesterday with the Mitsubishi Rayon JAVLN "stiff" in it. Put myself about 200 out and started hitting balls. Hit about 8 balls and the majority of them were either on the green or near it (hit 1 fat and hooked one.). I was surprised though that the trajectory wasn't much different than my current 4 iron (MP-30). Anyone else out there have similar trajectories with hybrids and irons? Can't figure it out.

PS Gonna try the same club with the Ozik in it.

 

[Zztop]

I like the looks and I've hit the Adams, I just think it might be hard to find someone to work with. Right now I can get a 3 and 4 for $100 bucks a pop, that's pretty cheap. But I'm not sure if I'm regular or stiff flex.

Not that it will help you much, but it might, regular or stiff labels on clubs mean nothing as there is no standard measurement for stiffness from one company to the next. One manufacturer's stiff can be another's senior flex, etc. etc. You need the cpm's of the shaft that suits your swing. Finding that is the challenge, finding a good clubfitter is the way. p.s. other factors also involved wich is why a good clubfitter is necessary if your trying to find the hybrids that are right for you!

 

[niblick1]

Well, I hit an Adams Pro Gold "4 iron" yesterday with the Mitsubishi Rayon JAVLN "stiff" in it. Put myself about 200 out and started hitting balls. Hit about 8 balls and the majority of them were either on the green or near it (hit 1 fat and hooked one.). I was surprised though that the trajectory wasn't much different than my current 4 iron (MP-30). Anyone else out there have similar trajectories with hybrids and irons? Can't figure it out.

PS Gonna try the same club with the Ozik in it.

The matrix altus hybrid shaft with adams idea pro gold is incredible. I try a ton of clubs, all used, and those are standouts for my swing. Right up there with Tour Exotics CB2 fairway woods as far as exceeding their peers. For me.

 

[tourdeep]

not for the macho man...

Late last year, I bought four hybrids from ebay, the 1,3,4,and 5 Adams Pro. From those, I planned to work 2 into my bag.

Having some time to play with them on a consistent basis, I can honestly say they are game improvement clubs. The problem is I like em all and don't want to get rid of any of them!!!!

My golfing buddies think I am nuts playing with so many "old man" clubs, especially when I pull out the 5 hybrid, the one that looks like a kid's club!

The purpose of this post is to exploit that toy club. It is by far the easiest club to hit in my bag. It will go high and stick the green and lost yardage has been rediscovered. I have yet to try knock downs or work the ball with it so don't know how receptive it is.

Those buddies of mine, even when they hit it, are totally surprised by its ease. But, they remain from the village where policeman, indian, construction dudes, military, etc., hang out. Just way too macho for a 5 hybrid in their bag.

 

[curtisj76]

I tried the Adams Pro Gold "3" with the stiff Ozik in it and I was (for me) crushing it, almost too much. I was hitting that thing like 220-230. I normally think my 3 iron distance is around 200, maybe a little more. I'm still very undecided on what to do. Still wish the Wishon's weren't so damn goofy.

 

[fronesis]

Late last year, I bought four hybrids from ebay, the 1,3,4,and 5 Adams Pro. From those, I planned to work 2 into my bag.

Having some time to play with them on a consistent basis, I can honestly say they are game improvement clubs. The problem is I like em all and don't want to get rid of any of them!!!!

My golfing buddies think I am nuts playing with so many "old man" clubs, especially when I pull out the 5 hybrid, the one that looks like a kid's club!

The purpose of this post is to exploit that toy club. It is by far the easiest club to hit in my bag. It will go high and stick the green and lost yardage has been rediscovered. I have yet to try knock downs or work the ball with it so don't know how receptive it is.

Those buddies of mine, even when they hit it, are totally surprised by its ease. But, they remain from the village where policeman, indian, construction dudes, military, etc., hang out. Just way too macho for a 5 hybrid in their bag.

Same here!!!

I put the 4 hybrid in my bag because my dad insisted I try it. Twice in the past week I've played with a group of seriously good players. There's a par 3 on the back that measures about 195, perhaps a bit uphill. They all hit 4 and 5 irons, but with a GIR percentage of about 33%.

I hit my 4 hybrid MILES high into the air, and it comes down and backs up about 6 inches. I made the 12 foot birdie to win two skins.

I'll keep hitting the old man club.

 

[Bigwill]

I'm assuming that the newer hybrids are much easier to hit that the earlier models (original Baffler, Tour Edge model, TM Rescue)? I used to hate those things. Haven't even swung a hybrid in years.

 

[niblick1]

Same here!!!

I put the 4 hybrid in my bag because my dad insisted I try it. Twice in the past week I've played with a group of seriously good players. There's a par 3 on the back that measures about 195, perhaps a bit uphill. They all hit 4 and 5 irons, but with a GIR percentage of about 33%.

I hit my 4 hybrid MILES high into the air, and it comes down and backs up about 6 inches. I made the 12 foot birdie to win two skins.

I'll keep hitting the old man club.

I carry a 23 degree hybrid instead of a 3 or 4 iron. I may be on to the 5 iron equivalent soon....

 

[fronesis]

I'm assuming that the newer hybrids are much easier to hit that the earlier models (original Baffler, Tour Edge model, TM Rescue)? I used to hate those things. Haven't even swung a hybrid in years.

There are a whole bunch of "utility clubs" that fall somewhere between traditional long irons and traditional fairway woods.

I think the earlier clubs, and some still today, are designed to be "trouble" fairway woods. To let you hit a wood out of the rough and bad lies, where it would have been difficult to do so with a traditional club.

But I think these "trouble fairway woods" are something different from "hybrids" that are designed as direct replacements for long irons. And this is especially true if the clubs are built to long iron length rather than fairway wood length.

I carry a 15 degree hybrid 1 iron, a 21 degree hybrid 3 iron, and a 24 degree hybrid 4 iron. My hybrid 4 is .75" longer than my 5 iron; they hybrid 3 is .5" longer than the hybrid 4. So my 3 iron hybrid is only 39" long. I think this would contrast to a lot of off the rack utility woods that might be quite a bit longer. In fact, I just did a quick google and found an eBay listing for a TM rescue club at 41".

And to finally answer your question, YES, these are very easy to hit clubs, and they are very different from those early utility clubs. But they also have a different purpose.

 

[cal7426]

I've had Sonartec mds in my bag for years now, I've tried a few others, but still prefer the Sonartecs.

 

[whipnzip]

Hey there, I'm thinking about buying a couple of hybrids (3 and 4 irons). However, I'm thinking the process is going to be a lot more difficult than I thought. Do you normally hit hybrids higher AND longer? I'm not looking for more distance as that would create an unwanted gap, I'm just looking for more height. I actually hit my long irons good it's just hard to stay on the green.

PS How can you find out if a club (hybrid) is bendable?

PSS I thought about going to the guy that built me my Wishon driver but I can't stand how their hybrids look at address. Anyone have the KZG's?

THanks

Six months ago I started using Nickent 3dx hybrids (17 degree 2 HB, and 20 degree 3 HB) with V2 stiff shafts.

The heads are clean, and fly about the same as my Ping long irons. The only difference I find is you know you're not going to miss, so like metalwoods you can flat out nuke'em if you need to.

The V2 shafts are low torque and have been a great match; don't really flight the ball a whole lot higher; I'm not a ballooner. Haven't tested hitting a whole bunch of knockdowns with them, but I think they're fantastic clubs.

Saw the Wishons, and they're not my cup of tea.
Taylor Mades flighted the ball too high.

 

[niblick1]

I've had Sonartec mds in my bag for years now, I've tried a few others, but still prefer the Sonartecs.

I started out with those after...wait, who was it? won The Open in 2004 using a Sonartec hybrid and hit some clutch shots with it. Oh yeah, Todd Hamilton. Good clubs. Easy to hit. They just look a little too big for my taste.

 

[niblick1]

The heads are clean, and fly about the same as my Ping long irons. The only difference I find is you know you're not going to miss, so like metalwoods you can flat out nuke'em if you need to.

Exactly. There's an extra nuke factor capacity in the hybrids that for me is just not there for me in long irons.