Flat Backswing
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A too-low backswing position of the left arm puts the golfer in jeopardy in that the arm and club are likely off plane. So any forward motion of the pivot necessarily throws the arm and club outwards before it can move down, thus committing the bullet as it leaves the barrel in the wrong direction, requiring a re-routing of the clubhead prior to impact. So its new path to the ball (vs. an on plane approach) means it is in the wrong lane and moving in the wrong direction. That's one of the issues.
Tom Bartlett
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NO.Perfect Impact said:
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YES.
curtisj76 said:
The key phrase in you question is "too flat", which indicates that there is one or more inherent problems concerning the returning motion and because of this you are bound to be unsuccessful. There are swing motions that would be considered flat and some that would be considered upright depending on the analyzer's point of view, but one that is in the "too" category is definitely undesireable. So, if your backswing is just flat then there is hope of compensating on the return swing, but there are a multitude of things that can occur, depending on your grip, tempo, posture, and so on. In order to compensate you need to understand your particular situation and that might make it necessary to employ a qualified instructor to observe your swing motion and recommend corrections. So, if you could post a video or stills of your swing here or there you might get some very good suggestions.
Tom Bartlett
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Again, NO! Maybe off of a desired plane but Not off plane.Perfect Impact said:
Brian Manzella
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Tom is right (of course).
You can be PERFECTLY 'on plane' but be on the wrong plane.
Now as for a backswing that is TOO LOW, the golfer will have a BETTER chance of closing the face if he gets 'back on top of it.'
But here is the real dope:
You want to hit the inside back of the ball on the way down while your hips are open to the target.
Make a backswing that makes that easy.
Easy.
You can be PERFECTLY 'on plane' but be on the wrong plane.
Now as for a backswing that is TOO LOW, the golfer will have a BETTER chance of closing the face if he gets 'back on top of it.'
But here is the real dope:
You want to hit the inside back of the ball on the way down while your hips are open to the target.
Make a backswing that makes that easy.
Easy.
tongzilla
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Brian, I have an "original" concept ( ), but not sure if it's useful in the real world so I want to hear your thoughts.
From the down-the-line view or target view, when the hands reaches right shoulder height, it should cover the right shoulder also, so the hands are not inside (likely if you're a hooker) nor outside (likely if you're a slicer) of the right shoulder. This is true whether you shift up onto a steeper plane (e.g. Squared Shoulder) or remain on a "normal" plane (e.g. Turned Shoulder Plane).
), but not sure if it's useful in the real world so I want to hear your thoughts.From the down-the-line view or target view, when the hands reaches right shoulder height, it should cover the right shoulder also, so the hands are not inside (likely if you're a hooker) nor outside (likely if you're a slicer) of the right shoulder. This is true whether you shift up onto a steeper plane (e.g. Squared Shoulder) or remain on a "normal" plane (e.g. Turned Shoulder Plane).
tongzilla said:
I agree that they should be 'close', but matching can't be correct unless you are arching the wrist at impact or hitting the ball 'at' lowpoint with a club without offset/hookface.
Let impact fix be your guide.
That said, far, far better to arch the wrist at impact, than to cup it
Brian Manzella
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From the playbook...
Ed, sorry dude, IT WORKS BETTER.
You wonder if all the teachers followed me instaed of someone else, how much golf could improve.
What a waste.
EdZ said:I agree that they should be 'close', but matching can't be correct unless you are arching the wrist at impact or hitting the ball 'at' lowpoint with a club without offset/hookface.
Let impact fix be your guide.
That said, far, far better to arch the wrist at impact, than to cup it
Ed, sorry dude, IT WORKS BETTER.
You wonder if all the teachers followed me instaed of someone else, how much golf could improve.
What a waste.
Brian Manzella
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Sounded flip again...
Listen,
What I mean is this, you think EVERY TEACHER would follow the BEST TEACHER, right?
Some do, some don't.
If everybody followed the best, or even most people, teaching would improve overnight.
The SLICE CURE—Never Slice Again—and HOW I TEACH IT, which I don't tell very many people about, just teaching students, is really the only way to go.
But, some would rather follow a theory, instaed of a PROVEN success.
They'll all find me—or wish they did.
Listen,
What I mean is this, you think EVERY TEACHER would follow the BEST TEACHER, right?
Some do, some don't.
If everybody followed the best, or even most people, teaching would improve overnight.
The SLICE CURE—Never Slice Again—and HOW I TEACH IT, which I don't tell very many people about, just teaching students, is really the only way to go.
But, some would rather follow a theory, instaed of a PROVEN success.
They'll all find me—or wish they did.
Brian Manzella
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Hey, one for the home team!
Very good, Mr. Leo.
Very good indeed!
tongzilla said:
Very good, Mr. Leo.
Very good indeed!
birdie_man
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Hooks.....
So you NEED to learn Axis Tilt and lag.....and start with/keep your head back.
These are good things...
And that's the ideeER basically.
So you NEED to learn Axis Tilt and lag.....and start with/keep your head back.
These are good things...
And that's the ideeER basically.
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