Flat left wrist and strong grip question

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Professor_X

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I'm having a problem with consistency. I was hitting some high cuts with my irons and my instructor told me to go to a stronger grip. But I have noticed when I try to get my left wrist flat that my clubface is really shut at the top and sometimes I hook the ball badly. Now my instructor says it's because my hips aren't openning up fast enough.

Is there something I'm missing here? Do I need to keep my forearms under rotated through impact in order to make a flat left wrist?
 
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Brian Manzella

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That's why I always say....

...just do it right! in the first place.

Learn to grip it perfect, and never change you grip to adjust ball-flight issues.

You can play with a strong grip, but you'd better be pretty good.

X, what is your handicap and what part of the world do you live?
 
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Can i have a go?

Ok Prof, purely amateur help so take it with a pinch of salt...

"High cut shot"... what does that really mean... high push fade... high ball starts left of target line then slices badly...?

One of Brians key teaching themes ( from what I have gleaned from internet study only) is that first of all you fix the clubface.

That means first check that grip and , i think, work out the clubface position at seperation ( remember that initial ball direction is 90 degrees to clubface at seperation - according to TGM)

This 90 degrees to seperation makes a big deal in distinguishing betwen the two "cut shots " i alluded to - push fade means clubface open at seperation ,- slice means clubface may be closed to target line at seperation.

It then gives a clue as to whether you are "bending your plane line" - ie. swinging out-to-in or in-to-out. Ideal impact alignment is an "in-to-out" IMPACT but an in-square-in swinging motion.

Hope you don't mind me butting in - by sticking my neck out i get feedback from some of the real guys and gals!:)

Good luck and i wait to hear what others have to say...
 
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Professor_X

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Brian Manzella said:
...just do it right! in the first place.

Learn to grip it perfect, and never change you grip to adjust ball-flight issues.

You can play with a strong grip, but you'd better be pretty good.

X, what is your handicap and what part of the world do you live?
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So assuming I go back from a strong grip, won't I then start fading it again?

I am from Phoenix and I don't carry a handicap but I shoot in the low 80's to upper 70's.
 
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Brian Manzella

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What?

Sir,

I have have no idea who you are, but, my advice is very sound.

If you go back to fading it, this site is LOADED with former fader/slicers and the guy who fix them---me.

Do you want help? Or just here to stir the pot?
 
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47range

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Here are some questions:

1 Please define your strong grip...how many knuckles do you see on your top hand and where does the "V" on your bottom hand point?

2. When you hit these hooks, please describe where the ball starts. At your target or right? Also, where does a good ball start and where does it curve?

The answers to these questions will help better define your problem.
 
huestisc

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Never Slice Again

X, if you really want some great information, I urge you to buy Brian's new "Never Slice Again" video. I'm not even a slicer (my miss is a pull-hook), but Brian's explanations are so sound that I still think it is his best video yet.
 
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Brian Manzella

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Ok...

How to hit it straight with a REALLY strong grip.

1. Reverse Pivot

2. Goofy way forward hands address position

3. Fudge bending your left arm to "hang a new hinge."

4. Apply right arm thrust across the shaft *ala hitting* to produce some angled hinging.

5. Zero out your #3 accumulator angle

6. Chciken wing it

You want more?
 
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Professor_X

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Why the hostility? I thanked you for your time and you sound angry at me for some reason? I'm not trying to stir the pot, I was just asking a question. I heard you were a good teacher and I should look at the board, but getting upset with me so quickly makes me honestly wonder how I'm going to learn.
 
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Professor_X

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47range said:
Here are some questions:

1 Please define your strong grip...how many knuckles do you see on your top hand and where does the "V" on your bottom hand point?

2. When you hit these hooks, please describe where the ball starts. At your target or right? Also, where does a good ball start and where does it curve?

The answers to these questions will help better define your problem.
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I see about three knuckles now on my left hand when I am at setup. The V on my right hand points to the right shoulder as does the V of the left hand.

When I hit the Hooks I cannot really tell where they are starting because they go left so quickly. I think they start at the target and turn left quickly, but they seem to start out left right from the start.
 
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Professor_X

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birdie_man said:
I guess Mr. X wants to figure it out on his own.

No time for taking advice.....must have perfect swing NOW!!!!!!
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I don't know where you are getting your impression sir. I came to this site for help and already I can see we have people just here to make fun of others.
 
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shootin4par

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Professor_X said:
What do you mean aiming point?
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when the ball is set on the target line, some people dty to have the clubface hit the back of the ball dead square on the target line. For the people in the know, you want to contact the ball a dimple or two on the inside with a slightly open clubface and at seperation the club will be about square to target line.
 
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