This is the one problem I have with NSA. Brian talks about the right wrist bends and doesn't cock going back but I find it very difficult when bending the right wrist to not over-rotate my left arm and get my arms moving very flat around my body. I'll try "show the armpits"; any other feels to get more of the up component with arms going back. Thanks
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This is the one problem I have with NSA. Brian talks about the right wrist bends and doesn't cock going back but I find it very difficult when bending the right wrist to not over-rotate my left arm and get my arms moving very flat around my body. I'll try "show the armpits"; any other feels to get more of the up component with arms going back. Thanks
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Brian has a video somewhere where he shows the backswing is a combination of a shoulder turn and an arm lift. What he does to do show the combo is this: from address, he moves his arms back about a foot and lifts them to about ear height, THEN he turns his shoulders - and achieves the backswing position we usually get. We usually get the backswing position in a blended motion and just don't see the lift part.
Showing underarm:
While bending the right wrist also try to get the elbow in a 'pitch' position (like pointing elbow back to your navel). Can't help but show the right underam.
Brian has a video somewhere where he shows the backswing is a combination of a shoulder turn and an arm lift. What he does to do show the combo is this: from address, he moves his arms back about a foot and lifts them to about ear height, THEN he turns his shoulders - and achieves the backswing position we usually get. We usually get the backswing position in a blended motion and just don't see the lift part.
Showing underarm:
While bending the right wrist also try to get the elbow in a 'pitch' position (like pointing elbow back to your navel). Can't help but show the right underam.
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birdie_man
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You probably need twistaway JRJ.
He wants you to try to not cock the right wrist..............so you don't end up opening the face MORE.
He wants you to try to not cock the right wrist..............so you don't end up opening the face MORE.
the right wrist only bends and there is no cocking at all hmmm i would have thought that there would be some amount of cocking involved in the transition
birdie_man
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Ya that's why I said "try to."
You might have some even if you try not to.
You might have some even if you try not to.
yes birds im wondering if all tgm teaching is based on the right wrist only bending with no cock at all??? perhaps someone could respond to this question
2mongoose
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Martin will show ya
Nice info from Martin on the roles of the left and right wrist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44fev4wqC6U
Nice info from Martin on the roles of the left and right wrist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44fev4wqC6U
Brian has commented on this before, iirc. I believe the holy book sets forth no right wrist cock, but real life differs. You have to decide the value of whatever model you pick. If you were to consider putting all the worst hacker mistakes into one model, then you will have tons of right wrist cock (and no flat left wrist either).
birdie_man
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A lot of it is or at least has been.
Brian has said recently something like "The right wrist is probably gonna cock some even if you try not to."
If you're doing a twistaway though the idea is to pretty much try and bend the right wrist STRAIGHT back on itself. If you "twist" enough (and your left wrist arches enough) you really don't have to worry much about the right wrist cocking I think. (whether it does a little or not)
BTW.....as for your swing going too far inside on the way back............so long as you AREN'T over-rotating the face open (you won't if you do the twistaway properly) it's probably not the worst thing in the world for a recovering slicer anyhow. (more in-to-out swing path) Assuming you are one.
If you want to do it anyway just trace outside a little more and bend your right arm sooner. Try each arm independently maybe.....if you're struggling. Make sure you still tilt lots "through impact."
Hopefully your posture is properly bent over. (from the hips)
ThomasTheTank
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Guys
Just an update. Ive experimted with some lifting of the arms and it just resulted in big OTT move for me. Im pretty sure this is because in my normal BS I have a twistaway first move to halfway back and then a shoulder turn to complete. The shoulders turn fairly steeply to get the hands up and left shoulder down. All I can think about in that second half of the BS is the chest turning up, right shoulder up and behind
As soon as I try and lift my arms my shoulders turn very flat/level. I still tend towards a slight hook, big draw and I'd like to find some way of cotinuing to complete the backswing with the steeper shoulder turn but blend it in with an arm lift. Any drills or ideas that could help?
Just an update. Ive experimted with some lifting of the arms and it just resulted in big OTT move for me. Im pretty sure this is because in my normal BS I have a twistaway first move to halfway back and then a shoulder turn to complete. The shoulders turn fairly steeply to get the hands up and left shoulder down. All I can think about in that second half of the BS is the chest turning up, right shoulder up and behind
As soon as I try and lift my arms my shoulders turn very flat/level. I still tend towards a slight hook, big draw and I'd like to find some way of cotinuing to complete the backswing with the steeper shoulder turn but blend it in with an arm lift. Any drills or ideas that could help?
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