Flat vs Steep shoulder turn
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Jim Kobylinski
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other than the "hardy one planers" i highly doubt you will find any decent player with a layed off backswing come way over the top of it. Only person who isn't a hardy one planer who does this that i can think of is Jiminez.
When someone lays off the club they have over-rotated the sweetspot by a bunch; somehow. This over-rotation of the sweetspot means that the face is going to be dramatically open and when you start to TRY to lag the sweetspot you are almost in many cases lagging the hosel (everyone should know what this means by now). This lagging hosel feel faciliates the golfer of bringing the HEEL more into impact rather than the TOE.
When someone lays off the club they have over-rotated the sweetspot by a bunch; somehow. This over-rotation of the sweetspot means that the face is going to be dramatically open and when you start to TRY to lag the sweetspot you are almost in many cases lagging the hosel (everyone should know what this means by now). This lagging hosel feel faciliates the golfer of bringing the HEEL more into impact rather than the TOE.
birdie_man
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I am confused. Y'all are both making some kind of sense to me.
Do we need a Manzella Answer.......
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Do we need a Manzella Answer.......
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birdie_man
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I'd have to agree with Jim on this one. When a better player or for that matter any player with a good transition/pivot is laid off they are more inside out/underplane on the downswing.
Good players tend to be fairly efficient with their swing and the shortest route between the sweetspot and the ball when laid off is one that stays underplane/shallow and inside out. Conversely the shortest route when across the line is overplane /steep and outside in.
It just happens that there are also players who get laid off then 'spin out' and throw the clubhead overplane and across the line players that have excessive lower body drive and get the club underplane. These are the players more traditionally associated with the laid off and across the line positions.
Good players tend to be fairly efficient with their swing and the shortest route between the sweetspot and the ball when laid off is one that stays underplane/shallow and inside out. Conversely the shortest route when across the line is overplane /steep and outside in.
It just happens that there are also players who get laid off then 'spin out' and throw the clubhead overplane and across the line players that have excessive lower body drive and get the club underplane. These are the players more traditionally associated with the laid off and across the line positions.
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