Jim Kobylinski
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I don't agree with that...the left wrist shouldn't bend until you're done with the swivel. Otherwise, it's leakage. Try and "tap the tire" and see what happens.
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I don't agree with that...the left wrist shouldn't bend until you're done with the swivel. Otherwise, it's leakage. Try and "tap the tire" and see what happens.
shootin4par
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can you expand on swivel for me jim, explain in tgm and normal terms?
Jim Kobylinski
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The swivel is after "both arms straight." Once you get to both arms straight, you have to finish the swing right? You do this by "swiveling" your entire left arm with a flat left wrist THEN you can allow it to break. Please know that the stronger the grip the faster the left wrist will break after both arms straight. Here is a picture:
Also, Lynn blake has video of him teaching Collin Neemin on his site and demonstrates the swivel as well. My "tap the tire" comment refers to Ben Doyle. If you watched any of the videos on Lynn's site of him teaching a student, he has him try to strike an golf cart tire. If it "bounces" on the tire you are "adding" and leaking to some extent. It should be a nice solid "thud" with the tire moving along the ground.
Allow the left wrist to break in the follow through and you'll find yourself "tapping the tire."
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But the question isn't whether or not you have to do it all the time or whether or not you want to employ it, but the question becomes can you do it? Sometimes, you want to "maximize compression" as Brian says. You need a little more mash and this is how you do it. You can allow it to break a little early but you aren't going to maximize that "smash factor." Brian demonstraits this is a beta video that he put up for free that i'll link to below. Watch the video and he'll demonstrate two similar shots against a fence and you make the decision for yourself which one "mashes" the ball better?
http://homepage.mac.com/brianmanzella/.Movies/segment1bw.wmv
Right about 5 minutes in....however watch the whole thing. It's free and it's good stuff.
Also, Lynn blake has video of him teaching Collin Neemin on his site and demonstrates the swivel as well. My "tap the tire" comment refers to Ben Doyle. If you watched any of the videos on Lynn's site of him teaching a student, he has him try to strike an golf cart tire. If it "bounces" on the tire you are "adding" and leaking to some extent. It should be a nice solid "thud" with the tire moving along the ground.
Allow the left wrist to break in the follow through and you'll find yourself "tapping the tire."
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But the question isn't whether or not you have to do it all the time or whether or not you want to employ it, but the question becomes can you do it? Sometimes, you want to "maximize compression" as Brian says. You need a little more mash and this is how you do it. You can allow it to break a little early but you aren't going to maximize that "smash factor." Brian demonstraits this is a beta video that he put up for free that i'll link to below. Watch the video and he'll demonstrate two similar shots against a fence and you make the decision for yourself which one "mashes" the ball better?
http://homepage.mac.com/brianmanzella/.Movies/segment1bw.wmv
Right about 5 minutes in....however watch the whole thing. It's free and it's good stuff.
"Allow the left wrist to break in the follow through and you'll find yourself "tapping the tire.""
In the tire drill, there is no follow through. The "adding" which results in failing Ben's test happens before impact and has nothing to do with swiveling or rolling past separation.
In the tire drill, there is no follow through. The "adding" which results in failing Ben's test happens before impact and has nothing to do with swiveling or rolling past separation.
shootin4par
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You actually want to miss the shaft to the right, it encourages extension down the target line and keeping the clubhead outside the hands
c21heel
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This is a great post! Lately, I have been working on trying to keep the right wrist bent back until the three o'clock position. This helps me keep the left wrist flat and enables me to reach the so-called left palm up (catching rain) position. Am I headed for trouble with this?
Also, I'm a little confused by some who say allow the left wrist to break during the follow through; do you mean allow the left wrist to bend back during post impact? It was my understanding that the left wrist was to remain as straight as possible throughout the swing.
Finally, I met an PGA instructor last night at the local Driving Range who mentioned that you can keep the left wrist flat and still flip the golf club during realease. He mentioned Ernie Els as a great example. Can anyone explain this?
Thanks,
c21heel
Also, I'm a little confused by some who say allow the left wrist to break during the follow through; do you mean allow the left wrist to bend back during post impact? It was my understanding that the left wrist was to remain as straight as possible throughout the swing.
Finally, I met an PGA instructor last night at the local Driving Range who mentioned that you can keep the left wrist flat and still flip the golf club during realease. He mentioned Ernie Els as a great example. Can anyone explain this?
Thanks,
c21heel
shootin4par
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mj, the shaft is put in the ground in a position where most all pros would miss it on the follow through, maybe the drill sounds more extreme then it actually is. The only thing really extreme are some of my swing faults that need to be fixed, if you saw my swing on tape you would understand.
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c21heel
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Birdieman, agreed. Best I can tell, he thinks an over-rotation of the left forearm is essentially the same thing as a flip of the left wrist. I'm not TGM certified, nor did I stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night. Therefore, I can't dissect between the two just yet. But, I'm pretty darn persistent!
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