Jared Willerson
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Get your shoulders going more up and back which will give you a bit more axis tilt for your fade......nothing wrong with a draw that doesn't go too much left though.
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birdie_man
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Nice.
That is to say- interesting exchange. (sounds like pretty good advice)
That is to say- interesting exchange. (sounds like pretty good advice)
self-mastery
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The best shot pattern is the one that YOU can constantly repeat.
It's really hard to talk a former slicer turned drawer into the merits of fading the ball.
It's really hard to talk a former slicer turned drawer into the merits of fading the ball.
Deadly_Scope
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Fades should be used for straight, equal trouble at both sides types of fairway. Draws should be used when the fairway is dog legged and allows a greater landing zone due to the shape - the same goes for fades if it curves the other way. Draws should also be used on straight fairways (and approach shots) when the additional yardage could be valuable for some reason.
On short range shots landing the ball in a specific area is of the utmost importance but as the clubs start hitting around about the 7 iron mark, having the ability to work the ball both ways as the objective itself makes a real difference to your scores. Having the ability to aim at one side of the green or another and use it to allow some error in clubface deviation for a specific plane line all the while knowing the ball is coming into the green with some kind of shape so if its on the left side of the green - draw and if its on the right - fade - just don't forget that the more the clubface has loft the less energy is passed to the ball so you may need to adjust clubs.
Fades will have a smaller distribution pattern in the true 'experts' hands and when you absolutely have to go for a pin from long range - you should aim your fade biased procedure taking into account the average deviation over your last few shots.
Hows that for convincing
Kevin Shields
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A flip, no divot draw will not go as far as a 1998 Duval type shaft lean fade. It's all based on the player. To say you should work a draw or fade on certain types of holes is nonsense. What if you prefer to work the spin away from trouble? It depends on your miss. Does your fade turn into a pull or a slice when you miss? Might change your strategy when there's water on the right.
self-mastery
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If I could fade it as well as I draw the ball......
It sounds more like something that was conceived in the lab than on the golf course working with real golfers.
My fade is a slice that cuts my driving distance by 50 yards It is such a no brainer for me to stick with my one shot pony draw, and just drive my cart leftward down the fairway.
Fades should be used for straight, equal trouble at both sides types of fairway. Draws should be used when the fairway is dog legged and allows a greater landing zone due to the shape - the same goes for fades if it curves the other way. Draws should also be used on straight fairways (and approach shots) when the additional yardage could be valuable for some reason.
On short range shots landing the ball in a specific area is of the utmost importance but as the clubs start hitting around about the 7 iron mark, having the ability to work the ball both ways as the objective itself makes a real difference to your scores. Having the ability to aim at one side of the green or another and use it to allow some error in clubface deviation for a specific plane line all the while knowing the ball is coming into the green with some kind of shape so if its on the left side of the green - draw and if its on the right - fade - just don't forget that the more the clubface has loft the less energy is passed to the ball so you may need to adjust clubs.
Fades will have a smaller distribution pattern in the true 'experts' hands and when you absolutely have to go for a pin from long range - you should aim your fade biased procedure taking into account the average deviation over your last few shots.
Hows that for convincing
It sounds more like something that was conceived in the lab than on the golf course working with real golfers.
My fade is a slice that cuts my driving distance by 50 yards
It is such a no brainer for me to stick with my one shot pony draw, and just drive my cart leftward down the fairway.Deadly_Scope
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It sounds more like something that was conceived in the lab than on the golf course working with real golfers.
My fade is a slice that cuts my driving distance by 50 yards
Well sure you have to take in to account ability and I am talking about ideals. Most players won't be able to play that way because they don't have the shotmaking capacity but learning to bias the shot is an extremely important skill to have.
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