friend hitting driver..that carries about 300
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Notorious B.E.N.
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If you look at some old clips of Arnold Palmer he takes divots with his driver which is proof you NEVER hit up on the driver.
well he wa using different drivers to what we use today
the longest driver on tour hits up
Notorious B.E.N.
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In the book the impact zone by Bobby Clampett he said you never hit up on the driver and showed pictures of tour players hitting down on a driver. Also he made a test with one of those swing robots and he said that the ball flew about 8-12 yard further by hitting down. He was coached by Ben Doyle as a kid, also. What does Brian teach?
Notorious B.E.N.
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Here is Phil Mickelson. Obvious he is hitting down.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3bUxgKukKQ
clampett's book is all about bottoming out about 4 inches infront of the ball. including with the driver.
it has been believed by golfing machine-ers that you should hit down with a driver, and they laugh out loud at teachers who said you should hit up.
well then trackman came along and showed that optimal spin and launch characteristics came from ascending blows.
brian altered his teaching accordingly.
http://www.brianmanzella.com/forum/115809-post3.html
Notorious B.E.N.
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Are you saying swing level to the ball with a driver? I'm confused on the matter myself. After reading clampett's book my ball striking improved the next day. Its is what led me to this Manzella forum. Impact is the only thing that matters, everything else is window dressing. That is the most important thing in golf i have ever learned.
if actually trying to hitting down on the ball has helped you, great.
nothing wrong with that.
most tour players would probably alter how much they hit down or up for different trajectory shots. and some probably hit down or up more than others. i'd guess sergio hits down more than bubba.
slightly down, slightly up it doesnt matter that much. too much down is obviously a problem (D plane for starters) and and up too much is also a bad thing.
Notorious B.E.N.
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Is that why getting fit for a driver is so important?
absolutely
cos there is an element of the shaft unbending on whether you hit down or up
Jim Kobylinski
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No more driver up/down debates, please, we've had enough. Do a search, the reality is this:
You can hit up on the driver and you can hit down on the driver but you will will in fact be longer by hitting up because you were have much more favorable launch conditions in MOST situations. Can you be like phil who has a severe negative angle of attack and have callaway create a super custom driver for you to correct that problem? Sure, but probably isn't going to happen for someone in this site
You can hit up on the driver and you can hit down on the driver but you will will in fact be longer by hitting up because you were have much more favorable launch conditions in MOST situations. Can you be like phil who has a severe negative angle of attack and have callaway create a super custom driver for you to correct that problem? Sure, but probably isn't going to happen for someone in this site
Notorious B.E.N.
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Thanks. Didn't know it was optional to your swing
well if impact is all important, and everything else is showbiz, then you have a multitude of OPTIONS in your swing to get that desired impact
curtisj76
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You beat me to it Jim!
Notorious B.E.N.
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Sorry Jim. I'm still learning.
Nicely put pecky. I never really thought of it like that.
Nicely put pecky. I never really thought of it like that.
Jim Kobylinski
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Don't feel bad, just do a search and read through some of the threads. IMO, ideally, you should still have a flat left wrist at impact with SOME foward lean BUT with a clubhead that is ASCENDING (hitting up) when it's about to strike the ball. If you are wondering how this is possible, it's due to shaft bend.
Chris Sturgess
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Bobby Clampett takes the hit down on the ball golfing machine thing too far. Sometimes I think the guy has never had an original thought.
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