Geometry of the Circle? C'Mon man....!
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I hope not. But the knowledge of the shape of the swing makes it easier to understand what the rest of my body is supposed to be doing. And if there is a way to extent the shape of the ellipse I think I want to know what it is.
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ej,
This is a very important question.
No, a player should think very little, if at all, about circles, ellipses, d-plane, parametric acceleration, and some of the other fun subjects that are analysized around here.
The teacher needs to know, or at least should try, to have a working knowledge of what works, why, and how.
The player who is trying to self diagnose and work on his/her game should have a working knowledge if away from a competent teacher. There are many of that ilk around here.
This subject is the next layer to analyse behind d-plane and ball flight work. Does the player hit the back of the ball or the inside aft quadrant? Feel vs real? What affects curvature/trajectory from a hand path, arm rotation,shoulder hinging, thoracic tilting/turning, and hip rotation/tilting standpoint?
This question, and this forum because of questions like this, are important adjuncts to our work on 1.68.
But no, flip the switch, for the most part, when you go play!
Exactly. Actually that was discussed at Anti-Summit in detail.
Given what we know about how the clubhead moves through impact, I know it's now clear that clubface control is actually just consistently maintaining the relationship of clubface to a good path -- well before impact -- for the needed d-plane to hit a desired shot, and not some manipulation of clubhead at at or near impact.
And if what you want is an extended flat spot at the bottom of the swing to maximize good impact -- how do you do it? It's easy to see how Lee Trevino hitting a driver might be doing it with a lot slide/lateral motion of lower body (easy to see how Johnny Miller did it as well), downward head movement, and a "slide of hands" through impact, but how does Hunter Mahan create the flat spot around the impact area with his swing, which I am sure he does very well? Paula Creamer's dive through the ball with the driver probably helps her create long, low to the ground, straight path through the ball?
Not to sound like a shill, by the way, but I think there's tremendous info in the Anti-Summit video for thinking about these issues. It's not the video I'd recommend if you are just looking for a pattern to fix your swing, but I think that for people interested in thinking about those elements of instruction that are a waste of time and those that are worth considering, it's a must-watch.
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Jim Furyk would be a perfect ex. of a swing thats ellipse or roller coaster does he think about it? Thats how he feels pressure in his hands and the shaft!
His intentions are pure and proves backswings are overrated and would drive a TGM guy nuts with the flashlight drill.
The World is filled with driving ranges working on perfect backswings that have straight lines and perfect circles only to fail once the ball is there.
His intentions are pure and proves backswings are overrated and would drive a TGM guy nuts with the flashlight drill.
The World is filled with driving ranges working on perfect backswings that have straight lines and perfect circles only to fail once the ball is there.
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