Getting across the line and being under the sweetspot in the downswing

[James Marshall (Hogan1953)]

In the last few weeks I've had quite a few new students who typically get across the line at the top of the backswing. A common feature of their start-down is, that in their attempt to refind the plane, they consistently get under the sweetspot and thus open up the face. Coincidence or likely consequence of the backswing? Any thoughts much appreciated, as always.

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

Strange, because most of the "cross the line" positions are a result from not letting the sweetspot rotate so it seems strange that they would go from an under rotated sweetspot in the backswing to such a drastic underplane under sweetspot condition.

Do these students swing too far right? They might be trying to get under the sweetspot to get the clubface open enough at impact.

 

[tongzilla]

Cocked right wrist at the top probably.

 

[Burner]

Cocked right wrist at the top probably.

Most likely.

 

[Brian Manzella]

More to "pull on."

When you "cross the line," you more than likely have rotated your left arm LESS than someone who point sthe club at the target.

This give you more to pull back inline when you make a corect start down.

This MOVEMENT OF THE CLUBHEAD IS TOWARD BELOW THE PLANE, so it is very easy for it to actually go below plane—and under the sweetspot.

 

[James Marshall (Hogan1953)]

Thanks very much for input. One of the principle reasons I see for getting across the line are poor rates of rotation(for a variety of reasons) in the backswing with the body outracing the arm swing. The trunk reaches its maximum turn too early and the triceps then separate from the body and often the club ends up getting across the line.

 

[Brian Manzella]

Well....

I don't think that a slight "cross the line" look is all that bad.

Laid off ain't worth a lick most of the time.

 

[James Marshall (Hogan1953)]

Thanks Brian, I remember you posting a month or so ago about your preference for a very slight across the line look at the top, given the risk of coming under plane I was wondering the reason for that.

James

 

[birdie_man]

Why is this Brian? You've said this before.....but with all the emphasis on flat left wrist I woulda thought the opposite probably.