Golf DVD's or Tapes best

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vball4812

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Has anyone here seen the Mike Austin tapes "Golf is mental Imagery" and the Austinology tapes?

I would like to know what anyone thinks of them compared to TGM video's. Compare them to Brian's work, Ben's etc.

I would like to get the best available, for teaching and understanding the correct way to swing the golf club.

After reading much on FGI and now on the Manzella forum about the golf swing. It has become confusing to me that Mike Austin's teaching seems to get very little talk in TGM terms. Was Mike Austin's teaching wrong and why?[8]

Can anyone sort out the differences and why TGM might offer better or is it that what Mike Austin did with a golf club, find it's ways harder to learn and perform.

Thanks

Victor
 
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Adding. I see the most confusing error in golf, is on the downswing, more swings find the right arm and shoulder jarting foward and causing a hoist of swing errors. Is there drill that will give one a feel of doing it correctly.
Feels are the only way one can learn to over come this poor ingrained habit.

Why does this happen to so many great, good and poor players a like?

From a very sound balanced set-up, I see this still happens often. It has been one of the top ranked errors in golf, IMO.

Thanks in advance for the two fold posts.

Victor
 
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quote:Originally posted by MizunoJoe

In this video

http://www.peacerivergolf.com/clips/learn/pivot.htm

it looks like an ordinary 3-barrel Swinging pattern with STT and delayed hip action. The "secret compound pivot" they describe with the rope, leaves out the lateral hip shift so evident in Austin's downswing. What they are demoing is a shiftless hip turn.
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Again incomplete information- clearing as you pointed out Austin as a lateral move as does MD on his swing. I don't think it is on purpose - or do they- is a lateral move then a hip action harder to teach?

Maybe Austin is going the way of Moe. Do as we teach not what the master did.
 
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quote:Originally posted by MizunoJoe

In this video

http://www.peacerivergolf.com/clips/learn/pivot.htm

it looks like an ordinary 3-barrel Swinging pattern with STT and delayed hip action. The "secret compound pivot" they describe with the rope, leaves out the lateral hip shift so evident in Austin's downswing. What they are demoing is a shiftless hip turn.
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Thanks, only this is not the answer to my 2 posts. What you speak of is not the tapes I am asking about. Peaceriver is not Mike Austins tapes.

Some one must of seen them. I am looking for the answers not a twist on something else.

Victor
 
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The Austinology tapes are $300, but I read that they are being put on DVD for sale at a much cheaper price.

An accomplished AI doesn't need the Austinology tapes to analyze the Austin swing which is on the above video clip.
 
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quote:Originally posted by MizunoJoe

The Austinology tapes are $300, but I read that they are being put on DVD for sale at a much cheaper price.

An accomplished AI doesn't need the Austinology tapes to analyze the Austin swing which is on the above video clip.
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This is another responds that keeps coming up, you claim to be an Accomplished AI and can't answer my questions.

Some must have seen all the tapes. I am not into turf protecting, I am only after the truth of the MA's swing verse TGM swings that are offered by Brian and others. So far know body wants to losen there feathers and give credit to what is there or not. I'm looking for the best and want to understand why MA's teaching may or may not be the best. Simple as that. If MA's say's in a video that "I have not seen" one should not retain the lag? WOW!! Then there has to be answers. The first two of my post here, ask simple questions. Lets see all the answers. [|)]

Victor
 
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quote:Originally posted by palmreader

GIMI DVD is $50 and Austinology DVD $200. See link below:

http://www.mikeaustingolf.com/products/

I have GIMI. The major difference is MA goes through a segment where he demonstarte that maintaining the lag is not good and one has to start throwing the club from the top. That is one major difference IMHO.
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450 bucks to learn a type of sweep release? Which still lags the clubhead into impact.
 
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quote:Originally posted by 6bee1dee

quote:Originally posted by palmreader

GIMI DVD is $50 and Austinology DVD $200. See link below:

http://www.mikeaustingolf.com/products/

I have GIMI. The major difference is MA goes through a segment where he demonstarte that maintaining the lag is not good and one has to start throwing the club from the top. That is one major difference IMHO.
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450 bucks to learn a type of sweep release? Which still lags the clubhead into impact.
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Wrong answers. [|)] My questions where simple, but carry a hard answer. I have time.[B)]

Victor
 
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vball,

I'm not an AI. But it's not hard to evaluate MA in TGM terms - Austin's pattern IS a TGM cataloged procedure, even though Austin doesn't describe it that way. You mentioned "the" correct way to swing a golf club in your initial post - there are MANY correct ways. Austin's swing wasn't "wrong", but his personal description of it in Austinology might be misleading.

It's not likely that you'll find many on this forum who have paid $300 for the Austinology tapes.
 
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I have the Austinology tapes, but I'm not sure what it is your asking.
If your talking about the release, and Mikes insistance that you dont use a FROZEN bent rear wrist, Austins says it would hinder natural release, however at impact, Austin has a flat lead/bent rear wrist.
Or are you talking about Mikes description of his rear wrist throw from the top? He demonstrates the wrist action on the Peaceriver dvd. Simply look at the action he is doing, he is unC0cking the rear wrist, he is rotating a bent rear wrist.
Make no mistake, Austin's procedure is explained in the little yellow book.
 
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quote:Originally posted by vball4812

quote:Originally posted by 6bee1dee

quote:Originally posted by palmreader

GIMI DVD is $50 and Austinology DVD $200. See link below:

http://www.mikeaustingolf.com/products/

I have GIMI. The major difference is MA goes through a segment where he demonstarte that maintaining the lag is not good and one has to start throwing the club from the top. That is one major difference IMHO.
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450 bucks to learn a type of sweep release? Which still lags the clubhead into impact.
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Wrong answers. [|)] My questions where simple, but carry a hard answer. I have time.[B)]

Victor
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Victor,

This is what you said in MA forum "I talked to MA, on the phone. Do you have a phone ? I am pointing all of you in the direction you should be looking. Baseball pitcher is my life, this golf swing was easy once I talked to MA."

Any one can read those forums, You tried to pretend as a MA expert, stirred the pot, but did not contribute to the discussion. Now, you are trying to drag everyone here also to a similar argument in my opinion. You say you do not even have MA DVDS. What are trying to acomplish? If you can do the MA swing and hit the little white ball 300+ yards, that is what matters. Why are you worried about TGM interp of the MA swing?
 
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quote:Originally posted by palmreader

quote:Originally posted by vball4812

quote:Originally posted by 6bee1dee

quote:Originally posted by palmreader

GIMI DVD is $50 and Austinology DVD $200. See link below:

http://www.mikeaustingolf.com/products/

I have GIMI. The major difference is MA goes through a segment where he demonstarte that maintaining the lag is not good and one has to start throwing the club from the top. That is one major difference IMHO.
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450 bucks to learn a type of sweep release? Which still lags the clubhead into impact.
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Wrong answers. [|)] My questions where simple, but carry a hard answer. I have time.[B)]

Victor
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Victor,

This is what you said in MA forum "I talked to MA, on the phone. Do you have a phone ? I am pointing all of you in the direction you should be looking. Baseball pitcher is my life, this golf swing was easy once I talked to MA."

Any one can read those forums, You tried to pretend as a MA expert, stirred the pot, but did not contribute to the discussion. Now, you are trying to drag everyone here also to a similar argument in my opinion. You say you do not even have MA DVDS. What are trying to acomplish? If you can do the MA swing and hit the little white ball 300+ yards, that is what matters. Why are you worried about TGM interp of the MA swing?
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Palmreader, Correct on talked to MA's. Talked to top TGM folks also. Wrong answers to my first two post. Read again Please before you shoot your type off.;)

I am looking for the best tapes to explain golf. NO Turf protecting. Get it?

You said you have one of MA's tapes? You know TGM ? I didn't think so.

Second part of my post ask's for answer to serious problem in ones swing with pro to hacker. Read again. [B)]

Victor
 
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Victor,

You seem to have a serious desire to learn what makes a good golf swing, so I would recommend that you study everything you can find on TGM. The money will be well spent. The difference between TGM and MA is not an either or situation. TGM is more like a master catalog of posssible swing motions, while MA is only one swing style that consists of elements that are described within TGM. I don't have the MA or TGM tapes, but I have studied TGM through the yellow book, plus what I have gleaned from the internet sites such as this one. A clear understanding of TGM will allow you to make your own analyzation and evaluation of any swing technique. MA is only one technique, TGM covers them all.
 
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I have watched Austin's swing but not seen his tapes (although I have looked though a book of his).

Victor, ask me a specific question about golf and I'll be glad to answer.
 
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quote:Originally posted by brianman

I have watched Austin's swing but not seen his tapes (although I have looked though a book of his).

Victor, ask me a specific question about golf and I'll be glad to answer.
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Brian, I have asked the simplest questions. If anyone has seen the teaching tapes of Austin and TGM tapes. Who has the best teaching of the golf swing, to use to teach and learn from. Keeping the turf protection card out of the equation.

Plus, what is the cure for the right shoulder moving out towards the ball on the downswing, which seems to find its way into the best as well as the high handicapper.

My first two post in this thread asked this. But it seems to have jumped ship to other ideas other than what was asked.

Thanks for your time

Victor
 
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Victor,

The word "jarting" is not in my english dictionary. Not sure what your meaning is. The shoulder must move, it's just a matter of which direction. I'm sure Brian has an answer for that question...
 
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