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[OLIVER1]

Hi Oliver

How are you going to rotate the pelvis correctly around the left hip if you don't have any weight on the left leg? I suppose the logical question would be "how much ground pressure/weight is ideal". Stack and tilters theoretically don't have a problem with a lot of weight/pressure in the left leg. Choppers who don't shift on the other hand have a big problem....

Couldn't agree more, Wulsey. I always assume there must be some weight on the lead leg, but how much and how it's distributed AND where it's going (into the left heel seems absolutely correct) seems to escape me in terms of any sort of functional algorithm..
Thanks for posting

 

[teeithigh]

Oliver. I like hunter mahan's image of leaning the body left as if trying to open a stuck door with your left shoulder. If you try this it seems you get the right amount of weight shift and hip rotation.

 

[SteveT]

I always assume there must be some weight on the lead leg, but how much and how it's distributed AND where it's going (into the left heel seems absolutely correct) seems to escape me in terms of any sort of functional algorithm..

If you want an algorithm, you will not only have to consider body weight, you will also have to include 'thrust' from the rear to the lead leg ... since the legs are splayed apart and there is a horizontal force component in the ground reactions. Shear torque too ....

 

[ej20]

As a teaching professional always looking to improve, I've been a lurker (is that the correct nomenclature?) on this site for a while now. And as a golf pro who has become absolutely exhausted and fed up with the abject vapidity of some of the "hallowed concepts" that are constantly being espoused as the sine que nons of quality golf swings, Brian's ideas are like a breath of fresh air; thusly, I decided to hop on board.

I look forward a discourse or two with some of the members on this site...
Here's something that I'd like to get the ball rolling with:
Once the movement/shift to the left has occurred to initiate the downswing (filling the gap, perhaps?), if the weight goes deep into the left foot it seems like this precipitates a rather strong lockdown - for want of a better word - of the pelvic girdle, and makes it impossible to adequately rotate, increase the axis tilt and fling the arms by the body. Instead. one can almost feel a bounce-back onto the right side of the body, with the arms flailing around in a desperate, and usually futile, attempt to find the ball...Does this resonate with anybody?

Once again, Im looking forward to many hours of enjoyment on this forum

Thanks...
OLIVER

In a world class golf swing the weight does not get onto the left foot until almost impact,despite what they feel like is happening.

There was a study done on Hidemichi Tanaka using pressure plates.Tanaka was very small at 140lbs but was well above average in driving distance on the PGA tour.The study showed that halfway into his downswing,he still had more weight on his right foot than his left.Only at impact did he have more weight on his left than his right.

 

[OLIVER1]

In a world class golf swing the weight does not get onto the left foot until almost impact,despite what they feel like is happening.

There was a study done on Hidemichi Tanaka using pressure plates.Tanaka was very small at 140lbs but was well above average in driving distance on the PGA tour.The study showed that halfway into his downswing,he still had more weight on his right foot than his left.Only at impact did he have more weight on his left than his right.

Yeah, I feel that when I'm playing my best...Conversely, when I'm onto my lead foot too soon, I feel I just "bounce back" into an difficult position from which to optimise thru impact. And therein lies my problem: I want to feel that the bounce back is the "drunk off the shoulder" part of the swing, but instead of tossing the drunk, I actually feel another one is jumping on me...And that pisses me off no end.
Thanks for you thoughts...

 

[SteveT]

In a world class golf swing the weight does not get onto the left foot until almost impact,despite what they feel like is happening.

There was a study done on Hidemichi Tanaka using pressure plates.Tanaka was very small at 140lbs but was well above average in driving distance on the PGA tour.The study showed that halfway into his downswing,he still had more weight on his right foot than his left.Only at impact did he have more weight on his left than his right.

Interesting ... because if you get on to your lead leg too soon, you may spin out your hips excessively. By lagging back the weight shift, you are ensuring the hip rotation decelerates if a timely fashion to optimize the kinetic sequencing.

I recall reading that some LD competitiors keep much of their weight on their rear leg, presumably because their swing is so fast, they don't have the time to get on to their lead leg ...!!!!