wow that's great stuff.
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Brian
It's a general rule not to put up other instructors links.
But when someone says
"A Flip shall be defined by the clubshaft passing the left forearm and the left wrist cupping. Contrast the shaft pointing to the middle of the chest instead of toward the left forearm with DH’ers."
In that case every golfer in history flips (who can play a lick), it's just a case of when.......
It's a general rule not to put up other instructors links.
But when someone says
"A Flip shall be defined by the clubshaft passing the left forearm and the left wrist cupping. Contrast the shaft pointing to the middle of the chest instead of toward the left forearm with DH’ers."
In that case every golfer in history flips (who can play a lick), it's just a case of when.......
Jared Willerson
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ANY classification system of golfers based on still photographs is flawed and cannot be argued with anything but circumstantial evidence.
Based on stills, you have no idea what kind of shot was being hit, did they pull the shot off? Was it a bad swing? After all everyone is human and no golfer is a robot. Too many variables to make concrete arguments based on stills or video to authoritatively say that groups of golfers do certain things.
Now, if we had more complete information, with ball flight numbers, relation to the target numbers and collision numbers over a series of shots, along with the players stated intentions with the shots, then maybe we could begin to classify what different golfers do. Until then, anytime someone says "This is a definitive group of golfers that ALWAYS do this" based on a couple of slo mo videos on the range. I am skeptical.
Based on stills, you have no idea what kind of shot was being hit, did they pull the shot off? Was it a bad swing? After all everyone is human and no golfer is a robot. Too many variables to make concrete arguments based on stills or video to authoritatively say that groups of golfers do certain things.
Now, if we had more complete information, with ball flight numbers, relation to the target numbers and collision numbers over a series of shots, along with the players stated intentions with the shots, then maybe we could begin to classify what different golfers do. Until then, anytime someone says "This is a definitive group of golfers that ALWAYS do this" based on a couple of slo mo videos on the range. I am skeptical.
lia41985
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That's why the flat left wrist is just "a moment in time".
lia41985
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Up-the-line
Player: https://picasaweb.google.com/Lukman...CMi2l5yZne_3qQE#slideshow/5680524201428822530
vs.
McIlroy: https://picasaweb.google.com/Lukman...gCIH94azf-d2vPA#slideshow/5680525522091972594
Arnold Palmer
https://picasaweb.google.com/Lukman...CPSq2rrI5J-x1QE#slideshow/5680528393996569218
Gary Player:
https://picasaweb.google.com/Lukman...CM-MpYaqs4PQrgE#slideshow/5680530086156794306
Jack Nicklaus:
https://picasaweb.google.com/Lukman...CKrq2NXe48aW8AE#slideshow/5680530703061456994
Ken Venturi:
https://picasaweb.google.com/Lukman...CMiInKrM_Me-sgE#slideshow/5680534959565016754
Byron Nelson:
https://picasaweb.google.com/Lukman...CPzqmf_Ktb7mtwE#slideshow/5680535586282490514
Player: https://picasaweb.google.com/Lukman...CMi2l5yZne_3qQE#slideshow/5680524201428822530
vs.
McIlroy: https://picasaweb.google.com/Lukman...gCIH94azf-d2vPA#slideshow/5680525522091972594
Arnold Palmer
https://picasaweb.google.com/Lukman...CPSq2rrI5J-x1QE#slideshow/5680528393996569218
Gary Player:
https://picasaweb.google.com/Lukman...CM-MpYaqs4PQrgE#slideshow/5680530086156794306
Jack Nicklaus:
https://picasaweb.google.com/Lukman...CKrq2NXe48aW8AE#slideshow/5680530703061456994
Ken Venturi:
https://picasaweb.google.com/Lukman...CMiInKrM_Me-sgE#slideshow/5680534959565016754
Byron Nelson:
https://picasaweb.google.com/Lukman...CPzqmf_Ktb7mtwE#slideshow/5680535586282490514
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lia41985
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Hogan:
Greg Norman: https://picasaweb.google.com/Lukman...CLufgs-q94vJtQE#slideshow/5682490628283042962
Greg Norman: https://picasaweb.google.com/Lukman...CLufgs-q94vJtQE#slideshow/5682490628283042962
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Brian Manzella
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The Greatest Driver of the Ball of ALL-TIME:
Brian Manzella
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It is really very easy folks.
90%+ of every player who ever won multiple times on the PGA Tour, had a sort-of match at the top with the clubface and the left wrist, and had the CLUBFACE on a plane heading somewhere near the baseline. (Yellow)
and....
90%+ of every player who ever won multiple times on the PGA Tour, swiveled the clubshaft back on a plane heading somewhere near the baseline, and had the CLUBFACE basically exactly on that plane. (Red)
The little known fact of how the arm and wrists work, is that Tiger can't swivel the face back on the shaft angle without BENDING his left wrist!
And Rory, will have to bend HIS more than he has already!!
When is this left wrist supposed to bend???
Somewhere past impact.
When?
Depends on the golfer's body positioning at and through impact (Duval vs. Stewart), grip (Azinger vs. Pavin), and things like resultant path vs. clubface for the intended shot.
Either way, it is in the process of MASSIVELY going from not bent, to bent.
And trying to prevent it would be goofy at best, and crazy at worse.
90%+ of every player who ever won multiple times on the PGA Tour, had a sort-of match at the top with the clubface and the left wrist, and had the CLUBFACE on a plane heading somewhere near the baseline. (Yellow)
and....
90%+ of every player who ever won multiple times on the PGA Tour, swiveled the clubshaft back on a plane heading somewhere near the baseline, and had the CLUBFACE basically exactly on that plane. (Red)
The little known fact of how the arm and wrists work, is that Tiger can't swivel the face back on the shaft angle without BENDING his left wrist!
And Rory, will have to bend HIS more than he has already!!
When is this left wrist supposed to bend???
Somewhere past impact.
When?
Depends on the golfer's body positioning at and through impact (Duval vs. Stewart), grip (Azinger vs. Pavin), and things like resultant path vs. clubface for the intended shot.
Either way, it is in the process of MASSIVELY going from not bent, to bent.
And trying to prevent it would be goofy at best, and crazy at worse.
Brian Manzella
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The best anyone ever hit it:
Brian Manzella
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No SHOVE-HANG-ON release here.
Brian Manzella
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Awesome set of pics.
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