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Hey Brian...

What do you think about letting the left arm hang nautrally, then taking your grip based on however strong or weak it is when it's just hanging there?

Do you consider this AT ALL when looking at someone's grip?
 
No eh. lol. Didn't think so.

Could you at least bash the idea? I'd be honoured (we spell 'honored' with a 'u' in Canada BTW- just in case anyone wondered. Errrrr....uhhhhh. *Ahem.* Ya. Well, I thought it was important, anyway, you know....(trails off) :D).

-Paul
 

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This is TOTAL BULL$#&%!

NO ONE would have a grip like Nicklaus or Hogan or Snead, etc. if thi s "TEST" was used 100% OF the time.

Junk.
 
Ahahahah love it.

Thanks for the answer....I kinda knew what I expected to hear but I'm glad I asked....lol.

Is there anyone whos hand doesn't hang extremely strong when at ease? Mine shows 3 1/2-4 knuckles....lol.

-Paul
 
You've heard it a thousand times before, but I'm going to say it again. For the most geometrically precise grip, take your grip at Impact Fix.
 
quote:Originally posted by brianman

This is TOTAL BULL$#&%!

NO ONE would have a grip like Nicklaus or Hogan or Snead, etc. if thi s "TEST" was used 100% OF the time.

Junk.

The honesty is brutal. Yet I can't look away. Legendary opinion.
 
quote:Originally posted by tongzilla

You've heard it a thousand times before, but I'm going to say it again. For the most geometrically precise grip, take your grip at Impact Fix.

I still don't understand what the big deal is about taking the grip at impact fix.....I can take the same grip time and time again at my normal address (Adjusted Address/mid-body hands....w/e you wanna call it).
 

rwh

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quote:Originally posted by birdie_man
I still don't understand what the big deal is about taking the grip at impact fix.....I can take the same grip time and time again at my normal address (Adjusted Address/mid-body hands....w/e you wanna call it).

A big advantage of taking the grip at Impact Fix is having the clubface oriented exactly as you want it at impact. I've found that I can't be as precise in that department if I take the grip other than at Fix.
 
quote:Originally posted by brianman

Impact Fix is a great way for someone with a TOO WEAK grip to not grip it too weak.

Something to ponder...

tongzilla nods and says:

Impact Fix is a great way for someone with a TOO STRONG grip to not grip it too strong

Something to ponder...

:D
 
I followed the logic in Brian's post but not sure what you're referencing Tongzilla.

I believe Brian was alluding to the fact that when you keep the clubface square at the target with a mid-body (shaft pointing at say the belly button) shaft location, and then move the shaft forward to impact fix while still keeping the blade square to the target, the shaft rotates. So if you're looking at two players and both appear to have the same degree of left hand turn/ "strength of grip", the one that has that grip with the shaft leaning forward has a stronger grip.

A fictitious example might further clarify. Say you had a student that was taking their grip at a mid-body location- and they wanted the back of the left hand to face the target- this player had a weaker grip than the teacher wanted but the student was obsessed about having the back of the left hand facing the target. Then you could strengthen the grip by having them take the grip at impact fix and having the left hand face the target.

Said another way- if you take your grip at mid-body and while maintaining that grip- move the shaft forward to impact fix- you'll notice the hands rotate and the grip become "weaker". When you've been studying and teaching as long as Brian has- these are some of the intricate details that you notice. (This is where Brian follow-up posts that "I haven't got it at all!":))
 
Is there really such a thing as "to strong a grip"? At impact fix your right hand and left thumb are either aft of the shaft or not.
 
quote:Originally posted by Mike O


I followed the logic in Brian's post but not sure what you're referencing Tongzilla.

I believe Brian was alluding to the fact that when you keep the clubface square at the target with a mid-body (shaft pointing at say the belly button) shaft location, and then move the shaft forward to impact fix while still keeping the blade square to the target, the shaft rotates. So if you're looking at two players and both appear to have the same degree of left hand turn/ "strength of grip", the one that has that grip with the shaft leaning forward has a stronger grip.

A fictitious example might further clarify. Say you had a student that was taking their grip at a mid-body location- and they wanted the back of the left hand to face the target- this player had a weaker grip than the teacher wanted but the student was obsessed about having the back of the left hand facing the target. Then you could strengthen the grip by having them take the grip at impact fix and having the left hand face the target.

Said another way- if you take your grip at mid-body and while maintaining that grip- move the shaft forward to impact fix- you'll notice the hands rotate and the grip become "weaker". When you've been studying and teaching as long as Brian has- these are some of the intricate details that you notice. (This is where Brian follow-up posts that "I haven't got it at all!":))

The logic of my previous post stems from the fact that if you take the grip at Impact Fix the way Homer recommended it, your grip shouldn't be too strong or too weak. Your Left Wrist will be Vertical to ground (for Swinger using Horizontal Hinging), but actually looks as if it's slightly Turned relative to the Inclined Plane. Your Clubface should also be Vertical to the ground, hence your Left Wrist and Clubface will be identically aligned.

The underlying premise of your post is that at Impact Fix the Clubface is Square to the Target Line. If that's how you want Fix to be, then I completely follow your logic (was Brian thinking along the same lines[?]).
 
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