Hands at the Plane Line?

[Socalesq]

But your shaft is already layed down going back. You have a quick swing so it needs steepened immediately, hence your hand path.

Ahh, I never thought of it that way since my club is so across the line at the top. So if I want the Hogan, Sergio, Fowler, etc. layback look starting down, I have to steepen the shaft going back?

 

[Kevin Shields]

Ahh, I never thought of it that way since my club is so across the line at the top. So if I want the Hogan, Sergio, Fowler, etc. layback look starting down, I have to steepen the shaft going back?

Yes, the across the line is the first steepening move you make. I still would proceed with caution and low expectations.

 

[Socalesq]

Sorry to bother you about this, but I don't understand how crossing the line is a steepening move.

 

[Kevin Shields]

Sorry to bother you about this, but I don't understand how crossing the line is a steepening move.

No bother. Crossing the line puts the club higher, or above plane (all other things equal). That makes it steeper. Most players will shallow that out and fade the ball or drop the club under coming down. You do a great job of keeping the club on top of the ball. IMO, that's why you may be looking at an extremely time consuming change if that's what you think will make you better.

A lot of swings go under the plane going back (shallow), to across the line (above plane steep), to backed up under (shallow and open). Typical slice. You try to avoid needing two moves to the ball if you can. The extremes: Sergio....one move. Freddy Couples.....two moves

 

[Socalesq]

Thanks, Kevin. I am going to try to make the change and see what happens. I started today to take my hands more inside and right palm facing the ball a lot longer (while trying to keep the club outside the hands) so my backswing is less shallow. We'll see what happens. Any other suggestions? Really appreciate the input.