Hands back to impact

[smooth]

I set up with mid right forearm on plane at address. I then take my right hand off the grip, make an air backswing and return my right hand to the grip in the same position.

Is this the feeling that i should have in terms of how my right hand travels into impact? i find when trying to copy this in my swing i hit good shots, and the motion feels very different to me than normal (feels like my hands and body are very low to the ground and definately an underarm or sweep type motion).

Is this what Brian says 'like a plane landing' rather than a 'plane crashing' especially with the driver.

Does all of this depend upon the plane in which you are swinging, or is this something that all good swings should have in common?

Am i on the right track?

 

[2mongoose]

Smooth,

Impact fix and address may seem similar, but they definitely are not. While Homer felt that having the right forearm on plane at address is important there are tons of good players who do not.

i find when trying to copy this in my swing i hit good shots, and the motion feels very different to me than normal (feels like my hands and body are very low to the ground and definately an underarm or sweep type motion).

You're tracing a straight plane line. A fundamental aspect of it is getting that right shoulder down plane, hence that underarm motion you are feeling.

 

[smooth]

You're tracing a straight plane line.

Thanks for the reply 2mongoose.

I've found that working with lasers attached to a club that i can trace a straight plane line no problems without getting into a similar position. Thats why i wasn't sure whether it was a 'different' plane i was tracing rather than a question of on or off plane?

Cheers

 

[2mongoose]

A word of caution when working with the laser trainers: it's still feasible to have that right shoulder not on plane and "appear" that you are tracing the line.

*I think*

Jimmy K would have more to say on this and it's a relevant point he made some time ago.

Jim - If you see this, can you better inform us? I vaguely remember the conversation.......

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

A word of caution when working with the laser trainers: it's still feasible to have that right shoulder not on plane and "appear" that you are tracing the line.

*I think*

Jimmy K would have more to say on this and it's a relevant point he made some time ago.

Jim - If you see this, can you better inform us? I vaguely remember the conversation.......

there is a way to trace a straight plane line, with plane lasers, with an off plane right shoulder. I did it for quite some time and while i was accurate, i was a bit short.

Reason being is that the more off plane your right shoulder is, USUALLY, the faster you will lose your trigger delay and POSSIBLE speed.

So make sure you can trace both.

 

[smooth]

A lightbulb has gone off !

there is a way to trace a straight plane line, with plane lasers, with an off plane right shoulder.
So make sure you can trace both.

Thanks Jim. i'm assuming that by 'both' you are saying also tracing a straight line with your right shoulder? Just checking out that theory i think a lightbulb may have gone off that for a very long time i've been manipulating things and tracing a straight plane line but have had the right shoulder above plane

What is the best way to check and drill your right shoulder being on the correct downstroke plane?

Cheers guys

 

[Perfect Impact]

"What is the best way to check and drill your right shoulder being on the correct downstroke plane? "

By doing just that.

 

[Brian Manzella]

Time.

The right shoulder should START down "on plane," but unless you are LPGA flexible, it will start to rotate above the plane before impact.

How do you know if when it is supposed to be going down plane, that it is?

You need to use video or 3-D to be sure.

 

[conkanen]

I finally received my laser trainer yesterday...I was definitely swinging way too much to the right. For the right shoulder getting down plane, could I just place a laser on my right shoulder (holding it in place with my free hand) and practice tracing a straight plane line that way? I think I read somewhere that some Manzella instructor (can't remember who) does this already.

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

I finally received my laser trainer yesterday...I was definitely swinging way too much to the right. For the right shoulder getting down plane, could I just place a laser on my right shoulder (holding it in place with my free hand) and practice tracing a straight plane line that way? I think I read somewhere that some Manzella instructor (can't remember who) does this already.

Yes, you can also stand facing a wall with your hands folded across your chest and make a backswing so that your left shoulder is rather CLOSE to the wall but on the downswing, your right shoulder is much further away from that wall.