Has chipping changed?

[curtisj76]

So who has changed their chipping technique? Should this "new stuff" change chipping as well?

I can't see myself getting away from the shaft leaning forward, FLAT left wrist, hands leading the head, shaft up the left arm, hitting down for chipping,etc. Am i foolish?

 

[dschultz6072]

There's more than one way to chip. You're not always going to use a leading edge chip, but there are instances where you might need to do something different. All depends on what you're trying to do with the ball.

 

[magicmarker]

If it works for you keep doing it... while the 'new' way might seem to be scarier to execute, I find it to be easier in every way in reality. Use your right hand (since it's already on the club) and then you can use the bounce effectively (since it was put on the club for a reason) or don't, the choice is yours. I like to have both shots in the arsenal, but I prefer the 'new stuff'

 

[bcoak]

I think it is well worth trying to switch. I find it much easier, especially on tight lies. I also think it works in putting too

 

[curtisj76]

Just seems like your timing needs to be PERFECT. NO?

 

[natep]

There's endless options for shots around the green. Experiment and use what works best for you.

 

[magicmarker]

Just seems like your timing needs to be PERFECT. NO?

It does need to be perfect with the old way.

New way you can hit INCHES behind the ball and the bounce keeps the clubs leading edge from digging in.
The club continues gliding along above ground and fat misses will still get airborne and the distance lost will be far less severe than with the old way. For me, through impact, the left hand is hitting the brakes while the right hand pushes on the gas. When you use the bounce properly, it will feel really easy to execute.

 

[Kevin Shields]

Just seems like your timing needs to be PERFECT. NO?

Using the leading edge gives less room for error. Releasing the club and using the bounce in the right turf conditions allows for much more room for error. Also don't get any shooters and spin and trajectory is more predictable and you have more variety......IMO.

 

[curtisj76]

Using the leading edge gives less room for error. Releasing the club and using the bounce in the right turf conditions allows for much more room for error. Also don't get any shooters and spin and trajectory is more predictable and you have more variety......IMO.

well it sounds like I have some practice/experimenting to do. thx fellas

ps congrats Kevin, you have helped many

 

[SteveT]

I tend to chirp loudly..... but nobody listens ....

 

[Robbierob99]

Just my opinion:

When releasing properly on a standard chip shot from a tight-ish lie hitting it fat and bouncing into it still serves up predictable spin and trajectory. When you "hold" or "keep the club 'up the left arm'" you simply dig the leading edge. On a shot around the green the goal should always be to use the bounce and loft of the club in your favor... You've got to release it properly to do that.

When releasing properly out of the rough I find it desirable to purposely hit it fat, ball always pops out higher and softer so you'll need a little more energy. Again good luck trying that while holding the club up the left arm and not releasing it.

Tight lie into the grain? Even worse... Especially if the shaft is unnecessarily leaning forward and not being released as the "old way" prescribes.

Sure you can get away with a "no release, shaft leaning forward, hands way ahead of clubhead and more descending blow" chip shot on a cushy down grain lie, but good luck controlling spin and trajectory anywhere else on a consistent basis as there is little to no room for error.

 

[admaly01]

Having made the switch in the last couple of years from up the left arm chipping to using the bounce, I can tell you, using the bounce is waaaay more consistent, and leaves waaay more margin for error in almost every lie. You can miss hit a chip by a couple of inches and end up being within 3 or 4 feet of where you wanted the ball to go. I feel like I can get up and down from anywhere now.

 

[Brian Manzella]

Is there a video on this? I feel with a less dynamic stroke like putting and chipping the wrists should be predominantly quiet. I couldn't imagine suggesting this wrist movement to my students.

I do it everyday.

I did it the other way.

Not close....a little toss goes a long way.

Using the leading edge gives less room for error. Releasing the club and using the bounce in the right turf conditions allows for much more room for error. Also don't get any shooters and spin and trajectory is more predictable and you have more variety......IMO.

A+

Having made the switch in the last couple of years from up the left arm chipping to using the bounce, I can tell you, using the bounce is waaaay more consistent, and leaves waaay more margin for error in almost every lie. You can miss hit a chip by a couple of inches and end up being within 3 or 4 feet of where you wanted the ball to go. I feel like I can get up and down from anywhere now.

A++

 

[dschultz6072]

hope this helps

 

[bcoak]

good video dschultz

 

[ZAP]

Put me first in line if Brian ever does a video on using bounce. It has made such a huge difference for me from 50 yards on in I want to learn anything that is going to further my understanding.

 

[mgranato]

When I think "chipping" I see the ball traveling the majority of its distance rolling on the ground.

When I think "pitching" I see the ball traveling the majority of its distance through the air.

Do you guys see the two terms as separate or do you use the two interchangeably? I love the mid-sole pitch, but I often use a different technique for short carry chipping. The shot is the shot, but I think it's easier to follow in writing if we all are thinking about the same shot.

 

[BrendanC]

Have to put a mention of the Rule of 12 in here - this has to be the cause of the easiest shots I've ever shaved off my handicap.

Still haven't cracked more complicated chips short shots/pitching but I'm getting there I think, with help from "new release" thinking.

The key change for me has been to simplify my backswing - get rid of all thoughts of extension, width in takeaway and just allowing the club to move up in a very simple motion.

Recent thought I had on this "Because the downswing has an "out", the backswing has to have an "in".

 

[Robbierob99]

I would regard this as a pitching action with a much steeper AoA. I agree that in this type of swing bounce can be effectively applied but when adopting a shallower AoA as in chipping, applying bounce would be more difficult.

Slam a basketball steeply down (or about 7*) won't it bounce back up higher than if you Slam it down at a shallower angle (say 1*)???

I think the best recipe for a shorter shot (a chip or a pitch or even a 70 yarder) from a fairway type lie would be a shallower angle of attack with the intention of USING the bounce via a proper release .

Maybe I'm missing what you meant?!? I really can't think of a scenario (that isn't a trick shot) that you wouldn't want to use the "new release" info.

 

[Robbierob99]

Yes Rob, that's probably the problem, I haven't seen the new release info but wrist movement sounds controversial and applying bounce from a shallow angle seems more difficult than leading edge dominance. I haven't spotted the pros releasing with a normal chip shot.

Granted, they've got some shaft lean but they are Releasing the heck out of it... There's no "up the left arm" anywhere that my uneducated eyes can see.