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Since a slicer generally dosen't have great clubface control, more forward lean will probably make the slice worse, as more forward hands tend to open the clubface. If clubface is fixed, it will allow them to hit straighter shots without having to flip it.
 
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I use to slice the driver, and pure my irons.

Now I hit a draw with my driver, and bunt with my irons.

Learn how to hook your driver, and transform that into a draw... It worked for me. My last drive today was 330 with a gentle draw... boogied the hole :(
 
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self-mastery said:
I use to slice the driver, and pure my irons.

Now I hit a draw with my driver, and bunt with my irons.

Learn how to hook your driver, and transform that into a draw... It worked for me. My last drive today was 330 with a gentle draw... boogied the hole :(
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What do you mean by bunting the irons? You mean you're just not hitting them pure anymore?
 
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JRJ said:
I've been on this site for about a year now and it has helped me tremendously. There's probably hundreds of things you could work on, but my suggestion would be these big 4 in this order:

First purchase NSA, then work on:
1. Using NSA to understand and fix your clubface issues
2. Learn clubhead lag, how to sustain it, PP#3 etc.
3. Learn to get axis tilt and maintain it
4. Learn how to properly swivel/release the club
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Notorious B.E.N. said:
maybe number 2 before 1. Needs forward shaft lean first.
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No.
 
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How to figure it out....

Th3GolfingMachin3 said:
I...i hit it pretty far, but not near as far as i could. I don't get any lag and i chickenwing it. My brother...hits it farther than me because he gets sergio lag and has a great release.

I can shoot in the low 70's alot but the chickenwing makes me really inconsistent.

My bad shots are fat shots and big slices with my driver. I can time it pretty good sometimes, but I hit a shots that results in double bogies under pressure.

(I have) Mostly pulls with the short irons.

How do you fix (all of) that?
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"I hit it pretty far, but not near as far as i could. I don't get any lag and i chickenwing it."

What to look for first is the grip, is it very strong? What does the clubface look like at the top?​

"My brother...hits it farther than me because he gets sergio lag and has a great release."

So does Mike Finney. ;)

But seriously, your brother-in-law means NOTHING to this lesson except at least you realize you could be better.​

"I can shoot in the low 70's alot but the chickenwing makes me really inconsistent."

Your chickenwinging may make you play as good as you do.​

"My bad shots are fat shots and big slices with my driver. I can time it pretty good sometimes, but I hit a shots that results in double bogies under pressure."

At this point, (if all of this is "for real") you HAVE to have a really strong grip and swing to the right AND chickenwing it to hold off the closing face.​

"(I have) Mostly pulls with the short irons."

The D-Plane strikes again.

Here is where to start:

You need a slightly weaker grip in the left hand. Do it.

Make a stock swing. If the ball goes right, try to finish with your left thumb more under the club, with your left elbow pointing more down.

Report back.

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glad all is well

Hi Bmanz

glad your back safe and sound.....

i wanted to say for some reason your last few posts reminded me of my x-wife

WHAT???? NO, NO, NO,

NO

NO

SOMETIMES ,BUT VERY RARELY.....

HJACK
 
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Bigwill said:
What do you mean by bunting the irons? You mean you're just not hitting them pure anymore?
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I'm not hitting them pure anymore... I no longer hit beat down irons, and I can no longer bullet my 4 iron like I use to... I miss that damn sound (CRACK). Oh well...
 
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To Mr. Manzella
Could this sometimes cause a massive hook? I usually aim left and hit fades exclusively, but once or twice a round I'll hit a massive duck
hook. Plus how weak a grip, one knuckle. Right now i have about three and half showing.
 
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Th3GolfingMachin3 said:
Could this sometimes cause a massive hook?
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Yes.

I usually aim left and hit fades exclusively, but once or twice a round I'll hit a massive duck hook.
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Your aiming left has NOTHING to do with the fact that you probably swing WAY TOO inside-out.

You feel fade by CHICKEN-WINGing it.

Plus how weak a grip, one knuckle. Right now i have about three and half showing.
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We don't do knuckles around here.

Look at my prefect grip article and go out 10-20° stronger than that.


PS.....if you change your screen name, I'll send you a free web video.
 
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I am Th3GolfingMachin3's little brother. I'm 16 and he's 18. I am a skinny little
Sean O'Hair I guess you could say. He is tall and wide, not fat. He is frustrated
because I make a big shoulder turn and get good lag without flipping from spending many
hours practicing in front of our big mirror. He has shot 1 under in a tournament this
year with a huge chicken wing. He isn't making this up. It's for real. Short game is more important than u imagine. Please help him. I have tried but can't. Ur a genius Manzella and we will do whatever you say.
 
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Notorious B.E.N. said:
I am Th3GolfingMachin3's little brother. I'm 16 and he's 18. I am a skinny little
Sean O'Hair I guess you could say. He is tall and wide, not fat. He is frustrated
because I make a big shoulder turn and get good lag without flipping from spending many
hours practicing in front of our big mirror. He has shot 1 under in a tournament this
year with a huge chicken wing. He isn't making this up. It's for real. Short game is more important than u imagine. Please help him. I have tried but can't. Ur a genius Manzella and we will do whatever you say.
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If you change YOUR screenname, I'll send you a DIFFERENT video.
 
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self-mastery said:
I'm not hitting them pure anymore... I no longer hit beat down irons, and I can no longer bullet my 4 iron like I use to... I miss that damn sound (CRACK). Oh well...
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sod the D plane

if you hit em pure and they sounded like a gun being fied, who cares bout some theory LOL
 
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pecky987 said:
sod the D plane

if you hit em pure and they sounded like a gun being fied, who cares bout some theory LOL
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I think Brian explained it perfectly in the last Manzella Live when he talked about players that had a lot of forward lean that would sometimes hook short irons. I couldn't hit driver with that pattern, but could rocket my 4 iron 240. I also couldn't hit fairway woods or wood shaped hybrids... I finally learned how to swing, and for a long time swinging felt flippity. I have less shaft lean, and a higher ball flight. :) I'm happy, but miss the sound and trajectory of punishing the ball with my old beat down pattern.

Sorry for jacking this thread, I'm gangsta...


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Chris Sturgess said:
Who cares how far you hit your 4 iron, you just delofted it. You probably hit your 2 iron shorter than your 4 iron.
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THANK YOU MR. OBVIOUS

What the H.... is a 2 iron? Who plays long irons in 2008? I only played long irons because I couldn't drive the ball well until late last summer. Thanks to Manzella :)
 
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