Hip Turn
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Hi Eric,
Guess no one is up except for those of us on this side of the Atlantic. First, let me say good choice posting to the message board this morning. I was out on the golf course: 2 degrees, with the wind blowing about 35 mph. COLD.
As to your question about hip turn, you'll probably get more expert answers, but I'm fairly certain that Brian's general position on this is that restricting the hip turn is largely nonsense. Hogan, of course, was probably the first to SAY this was very important, but I believe Brian will argue that even Hogan didn't do this. In addition, for most golfers, letting the hips move more freely going back makes for a much better pivot.
Guess no one is up except for those of us on this side of the Atlantic. First, let me say good choice posting to the message board this morning. I was out on the golf course: 2 degrees, with the wind blowing about 35 mph. COLD.
As to your question about hip turn, you'll probably get more expert answers, but I'm fairly certain that Brian's general position on this is that restricting the hip turn is largely nonsense. Hogan, of course, was probably the first to SAY this was very important, but I believe Brian will argue that even Hogan didn't do this. In addition, for most golfers, letting the hips move more freely going back makes for a much better pivot.
tank
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You're right. Some pro's have a lot of hip turn (look at Phil Mickelson for one).
Generally , it appears that Brian recommends more hip turn for correcting the slice, and less for correcting the hook.
speedracer68
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restricting hip turn is not good for all but the most flexible players..Let those hips turn back..you'll play much better..that hip restricting x-factor bs really messed me up for a couple of years..even jim flick has a looot of hip turn...
tank
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restricting hip turn is not good for all but the most flexible players..Let those hips turn back..you'll play much better..that hip restricting x-factor bs really messed me up for a couple of years..even jim flick has a looot of hip turn...
You mean Jim McLean. And you're right he has a ton of hip turn. I think he actually apologised for his mistake regarding his XiFactor theory a few years ago. The effective X factor is increased in the downswing not the backswing.
It messed me up for a period too.
tongzilla
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Think nothing vs No thinking
It's important to note the difference between thinking about not trying to turn the hips and not thinking about trying to turn the hips (read that again). The latter is very useful for a lot of players, myself included. The former can be very destructive as a few members has already testified.
It's important to note the difference between thinking about not trying to turn the hips and not thinking about trying to turn the hips (read that again
). The latter is very useful for a lot of players, myself included. The former can be very destructive as a few members has already testified.well my story is interesting
i bought into the x factor, after hearing how tiger actively restricts his hip turn, due to his incredible flexibility. seeing him and charles howell, and trevor immelman and sean o'hair do this i tried it, and it actually worked and i hit it really well, espcially with the driver.
then i discovered a golf pro. i wont mention his name, as i'll proply break brian's rule about other teachers. anyway, he believed in keeping the arms infront of the body, and for the majority of golfers, to do this, they need more hip turn. he actually teaches alot of what brian teaches, like using the hips to push on the club and throw it to the top of the swing, and allowing the hips to release going back to get enough shoulder turn. i realised, it was the proper way to go, for me, and for the majority i believe, to do this.
i have played like this ever since and hit it as good, probly better, than before. it shows that you can play good golf either way. the aforementioned tour players are so flexible and toned they can do that, and it works. however, bubba watson, phil mickelson and vijay singh all allow the hips to turn going back.
i belive most players need to let their hips turn, imo, to play good golf
i bought into the x factor, after hearing how tiger actively restricts his hip turn, due to his incredible flexibility. seeing him and charles howell, and trevor immelman and sean o'hair do this i tried it, and it actually worked and i hit it really well, espcially with the driver.
then i discovered a golf pro. i wont mention his name, as i'll proply break brian's rule about other teachers. anyway, he believed in keeping the arms infront of the body, and for the majority of golfers, to do this, they need more hip turn. he actually teaches alot of what brian teaches, like using the hips to push on the club and throw it to the top of the swing, and allowing the hips to release going back to get enough shoulder turn. i realised, it was the proper way to go, for me, and for the majority i believe, to do this.
i have played like this ever since and hit it as good, probly better, than before. it shows that you can play good golf either way. the aforementioned tour players are so flexible and toned they can do that, and it works. however, bubba watson, phil mickelson and vijay singh all allow the hips to turn going back.
i belive most players need to let their hips turn, imo, to play good golf
c21heel
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Personally, I seem to play better when I limit my hip turn. But, I think I have struggled at times with understanding what a correct hip turn actually is. It appears to me that when done properly, the right hip actually gets closer to the target at the top of the swing. My right hip tends to get further away from the target at the top of my swing, which probably means I'm shifting laterally instead of rotating.
This could explain why I have a tendency to hit the ball chunky at times.
This could explain why I have a tendency to hit the ball chunky at times.
even tiger, who has limited hip turn at most, moves his right hip some-what towards the target on the backswing. from there, in the transition into the sit-down, the left hip clears with the right hip sstayin in place for a bit, thats where tigers squat comes from and hogan had it as well
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