Homer's Greatest Hits

[holenone]

quote:Originally posted by ppt3

...three of my favorites 6-B-0, 6-G-0, and my all time favorite 3-F-6.

ppt3

Now, this is a really good idea! We need an 'All Time' Homer Kelley's Greatest Hits List.

When in contact with the Golf World's Great Unwashed, you need to have this stuff at the tip of your tongue. [8D] Can you narrow down the breadth that is The Golfing Machine into just three favorite 'paragraph' references? Quite frankly, I've never tried, and I'm not sure I can. But, if you will try, so will I! So, let's have a 'go' at it, shall we?

Name your Three (ONLY) Favorite TGM Paragraphs, and rank them in order of preference. Now!

Entries close September 1.

P.S. Extra tie-breaking credit will be awarded for discussion as to 'Why', but only after you've made your up-front nominations.

P.P.S. The Winner will be the one whose priority selections most closely match the collective order. Will somebody please volunteer to keep up with the scoring! Thanks!

P.P.P.S. Brian, will you serve as final judge and jury?

 

[Triad]

Too hard, how bout top 20?

Anyway, here are my entries. 6-B-3-0-1, 6-G-0, 6-E-2.

Followed by 6-B-1-D, 6-P-0, 2-0. (Couldn't help myself )

Traid

 

[EdZ]

10-2-B
6 B 1 D
and whatever section lists the three imparatives, I don't have a book with me

 

[corky05]

Is there anyway to summarize what those numbers and letters mean to the layman. I am trying to get another yellow book. I signed and gave away my copy to one of my best friends and best golfing buddies, when I left the Marine Corps. I have been threatening to buy another one, but have not got around to doing so, yet. Thanks!

 

[EdZ]

Sure...

10-2-B - the correct grip - palms face, back of left hand square to target, thumb on the side of the shaft - fits in right palm which faces left palm, like gripping a ruler - most training grips do a moderately decent job of showing this

6-b-1-d - extensor action - use your right palm to pull your left thumb - keep your hands as far away from your head as possible during the entire swing, keeping the right palm between your head and your thumb

And the three imparatives: straight plane line, steady head, lag pressure point

straight plane line - one end of the shaft (closest to the ground) should always point to the target line (unless it is parallel)

steady head - a point at the base of the neck, between the shoulders, stays in the same spot during the motion - rotate the entire body around the spine, and the hands around that 'point'

lag pressure - imagine a rope from your left ankle, up the side of your body, left shoulder, arm, club - at the top the club is still moving back as your left foot moves down - putting tension on the rope - keep that tension as the 'whip' moves through the rope - see Brian's article for a great description re: the shopping cart and what the HANDS feel. The club should feel heavy.

Finally, for the total motion, see the EdZ drills (flying wedges) hands like this -|

And stay in balance, always.

 

[MizunoJoe]

EdZ,

Steady head is NOT one of the 3 imperatives.

 

[corky05]

Ed, Thanks! I appreciate the interpretation. I'm printing your post to keep as a reference. One in my golf bag and one in the office. Regards,Rich C.

 

[Brian Manzella]

1-L

 

[MizunoJoe]

6-C-2-0. CLUBHEAD LAG is the "Secret of Golf".

6-E-2-1. If you don't KNOW that you hit down, assume you didn't.

13-0. Again--Pull Stroke(Left Arm Swing) rules out Radial Acceleration(10-19-A).

The last is PROOF POSITIVE that Homer knew "4-barrel swinging" didn't exist.

My REAL favorites from Homer aren't from the book, but from Homer quotes - "I don't care what you pull with, just pull", and "I don't care if your backswing looks like a circus clown".

 

[EdZ]

quote:Originally posted by MizunoJoe

EdZ,

Steady head is NOT one of the 3 imperatives.

Yep, sorry about that.... I don't have the book memorized like some.

flat left wrist.... but then if you really ensure lag pressure points, you would have a flat left wrist. A stable swing center is indeed imperative in my view

 

[holenone]

quote:Originally posted by EdZ

quote:Originally posted by MizunoJoe

EdZ,

Steady head is NOT one of the 3 imperatives.

Yep, sorry about that.... I don't have the book memorized like some.

flat left wrist.... but then if you really ensure lag pressure points, you would have a flat left wrist. A stable swing center is indeed imperative in my view

This is important, so let's get it right:

The Stationary Head is the first of the Three Basic Essentials (2-0-A-1).

Also, the Stationary Head Pivot Center is not the same as the 'Between-the-Shoulders' Pivot Center. It is its alternative (Glossary).

 

[holenone]

quote:Originally posted by EdZ
A stable swing center is indeed imperative in my view

Homer Kelley was careful to differentiate the Imperatives from the Essentials. You cannot deviate from the Three Imperatives -- Flat Left Wrist, Clubhead Lag Pressure Point and Straight Plane Line -- and play high level golf. Deviating from the Three Essentials -- Stationary Head, Balance and Rhythm (close call!) -- makes high level golf far more difficult, but not impossible. As an example, recall Curtis Strange winning two U.S. Opens with a very visible lateral Head movement.

 

[mgjordan]

2-F

6-B-1-0

4-D-1

 

[DDL]

There must be a reason why Tiger dips his head down on the downswing. I assumed it was to drive down into the ball more. Would a stationary head really help him?

 

[bcoak]

More examples of head movement: Duval and Sorenstam with obvious head movement. You can argue Annika is one of the most accurate players ever.

 

[matt]

quote:Originally posted by DDL



There must be a reason why Tiger dips his head down on the downswing. I assumed it was to drive down into the ball more. Would a stationary head really help him?

I'm still trying to figure out how in the world Tiger can simultaneously go DOWN with his upper body and push UP with his lower body. It's uncanny and I don't think it can be taught - nor would you want to teach it!

 

[EdZ]

quote:Originally posted by holenone

quote:Originally posted by EdZ
A stable swing center is indeed imperative in my view

Homer Kelley was careful to differentiate the Imperatives from the Essentials. You cannot deviate from the Three Imperatives -- Flat Left Wrist, Clubhead Lag Pressure Point and Straight Plane Line -- and play high level golf. Deviating from the Three Essentials -- Stationary Head, Balance and Rhythm (close call!) -- makes high level golf far more difficult, but not impossible. As an example, recall Curtis Strange winning two U.S. Opens with a very visible lateral Head movement.

Yes, Strange moved more 'around' the spine, too much in my view.

I would not consider Sorenstam, nor Duval to really violate the stable center - they move around the spine.

As far as Homer's Greatest Hits, I'd love to hear your views Holenone..

 

[Triad]

quote:Originally posted by Triad

Too hard, how bout top 20?

Anyway, here are my entries. 6-B-3-0-1, 6-G-0, 6-E-2.

Followed by 6-B-1-D, 6-P-0, 2-0. (Couldn't help myself )

Traid

It's funny. After getting home from work and reading this thread my post looked very odd for some reason. It was done before my first cup of coffee

In hindsight, it would appear that I got stuck in chapter 6 and never moved on. The reality is that my Book has many paragraphs underlined and many paragraphs highlighted. These paragraphs in chapter 6 are highlighted AND underlined, completely.

I have found this exercise to be extremely valuable and fun. My current understanding of the Book is really (in my humble incubator) more of a mish-mash of great thoughts and ideas. This has forced me to seek these points out and rank them.

As I read the book tonight, I could have just as easily chosen all paragraphs from chapter One. 1-B, 1-F, 1-L or even 1-J (if just for that one unsurpassed sentence(concept).

However, there are no mulligans in this excercise. I will stick with my original (pre-coffee) response.

STL,
Triad

 

[dene]

Originally posted by EdZ

Sure...

6-b-1-d - extensor action - use your right palm to pull your left thumb - keep your hands as far away from your head as possible during the entire swing, keeping the right palm between your head and your thumb

Good post but I had trouble following this paragraph. When the right hand is in the tray position at the top, how is it "between your head and your thumb."

-Greg

 

[mgjordan]

A still head is referencing you IMPACT FIX head location. If your impact fix head location is lower than your adjusted address location, then you will have to dip down during the downswing to return your head to it's impact fix location.