puttmaster
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Brian -- can you comment on how best to achieve No. 6? My assumption would be to feel like you are dropping arms/hands/club straight DOWN, as if to hit the right foot. Thanks, pm
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How to add extra swing speed
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Brian -- can you comment on how best to achieve No. 6? My assumption would be to feel like you are dropping arms/hands/club straight DOWN, as if to hit the right foot. Thanks, pm
priceunderpar
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There are no glaring swing flaws in video of my swing. I don't retain as much lag as some but I don't flip the club at impact, I don't swing over the top, or slide, and I do usually hit the ball above the center of the face. Got my swing up to 106 on the swing speed Radar this weekend. I tried what Brian said in tip # 7 and it seemed to help me pick up speed and I didn't flip my hands like I feared I would.
Observation: While watching the Hope this weekend, I noticed that a lot of the amatuer golfers who's swings were analized by Nick Faldo had very noticable swing flaws. Maybe not swing faults as much as what I perceived to be major power leaks.
ex. Many had upper body powered swings, with very little lower body pivot. When they showed the amatuers stats next to average tour pro, many of the Amatuers had swing speeds above tour (112-116 range). I couldn't believe the numbers.
Observation: While watching the Hope this weekend, I noticed that a lot of the amatuer golfers who's swings were analized by Nick Faldo had very noticable swing flaws. Maybe not swing faults as much as what I perceived to be major power leaks.
ex. Many had upper body powered swings, with very little lower body pivot. When they showed the amatuers stats next to average tour pro, many of the Amatuers had swing speeds above tour (112-116 range). I couldn't believe the numbers.
RicoSuave
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There werent so many at the hope, mr. kelly was one of them and his swing was pretty nice - and he plays since he is a child.
I work since 3 years with the speed radar - started with around 100 and swing it now between 105 - 113 mph. I am just 170 cm small and my weight is 52kg - on the LPGA I would be in front ;-)
When I started my observations with feelings to gather speed I did it without a ball, and my record was 125mph with a HONMA club - it had a so called "double kick" shaft, where you really could feel when the shaft is stressed to max at about hip hight - then you just had to let this beast go.
I was training at home during the winter time and with a waffle-ball I just could manage 115mph with this honma club - then I overdid it and with sweaty hands the club smashed into a wall and broke ;-) no problem: the club is on the R&A blacklist because of the trampoline-effect (which of course has nothing to do with headspeed).
Some of my friends in our club can easily drive 300+ yards - and the radar shows 117-129 mph with this guys - these counts mirrored quite exactly the headspeed, the achiever showed us in the indoor-hall with PRO V1s. So I think the radar is quite reliable, although my swing-analysis-mat is showing up 5mphs less than the radar. So when my radar shows 112mph the GSA-System shows just 171,5 kph (106,25mph) - I contacted the developer and after the PGA-show he will give me answers about that).
When I took videos of my friends I discovered that the long-hitters are all swinging down more on the ellbow-plane. I´m swinging down directly on the turned-shoulder plane. I think that one of the most important parts is loading the right wrist in the downswing, and when this loading is in the ellbow-plane the right wrist can snap perfectly back in to the ball.
So my observations were:
speed enhancing factors:
- from the ground up
- not too much tension in the backswing (as mentioned sooner in this thread)
- keep your head behind the ball in the downswing
- loading the right wrist during the downswing
- releasing the right wrist load before the impact (its a feeling of letting it go)
- swing down in to the ground (also a feeling)
speed decreasing factors:
- backswing with too much tension (the hip is not turning in the backswing)
- swaying to the left during downswing (extreme-speed killer - about 5mph)
- swinging to the left instead of down
- a quick hectic transition from back to downswing
- not releasing before impact and keeping the pressure through the finish
I work since 3 years with the speed radar - started with around 100 and swing it now between 105 - 113 mph. I am just 170 cm small and my weight is 52kg - on the LPGA I would be in front ;-)
When I started my observations with feelings to gather speed I did it without a ball, and my record was 125mph with a HONMA club - it had a so called "double kick" shaft, where you really could feel when the shaft is stressed to max at about hip hight - then you just had to let this beast go.
I was training at home during the winter time and with a waffle-ball I just could manage 115mph with this honma club - then I overdid it and with sweaty hands the club smashed into a wall and broke ;-) no problem: the club is on the R&A blacklist because of the trampoline-effect (which of course has nothing to do with headspeed).
Some of my friends in our club can easily drive 300+ yards - and the radar shows 117-129 mph with this guys - these counts mirrored quite exactly the headspeed, the achiever showed us in the indoor-hall with PRO V1s. So I think the radar is quite reliable, although my swing-analysis-mat is showing up 5mphs less than the radar. So when my radar shows 112mph the GSA-System shows just 171,5 kph (106,25mph) - I contacted the developer and after the PGA-show he will give me answers about that).
When I took videos of my friends I discovered that the long-hitters are all swinging down more on the ellbow-plane. I´m swinging down directly on the turned-shoulder plane. I think that one of the most important parts is loading the right wrist in the downswing, and when this loading is in the ellbow-plane the right wrist can snap perfectly back in to the ball.
So my observations were:
speed enhancing factors:
- from the ground up
- not too much tension in the backswing (as mentioned sooner in this thread)
- keep your head behind the ball in the downswing
- loading the right wrist during the downswing
- releasing the right wrist load before the impact (its a feeling of letting it go)
- swing down in to the ground (also a feeling)
speed decreasing factors:
- backswing with too much tension (the hip is not turning in the backswing)
- swaying to the left during downswing (extreme-speed killer - about 5mph)
- swinging to the left instead of down
- a quick hectic transition from back to downswing
- not releasing before impact and keeping the pressure through the finish
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James Marshall (Hogan1953)
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Brian,
I know you've mentioned "increasing the speed of rotation of the centre" before in other posts but not here, is there a reason for its omission or is it implicit in no.4?
Thanks,
James
I know you've mentioned "increasing the speed of rotation of the centre" before in other posts but not here, is there a reason for its omission or is it implicit in no.4?
Thanks,
James
Yeah, nothing shocking about Bo Jackson having a really high swing speed (even at his current weight
). One of the best pro athletes in the US in last 50 years.priceunderpar
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Aint Barkley a former high level pro athlete? Just sayin...
Haha! Can't win em all. I don't care how bad a day I'm having, that swing always cracks me up, no matter how many times I see it.
birdie_man
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It's unbelievable how someone could have a move like that.
Right on cjgolf. Hi-Bores for one...
begolfpro
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Increasing the speed of your swing
The BEST way to add speed to your swing is to INCREASE the rotation of the forearms through impact! However, you have to remember to swing smooth and faster NOT harder! It ONLY matters if you are swinging fast at impact and not from the top of the swing. Just watch Ernie Els' swing if you get a chance They do not call him the Big Easy for nothing. His swing looks effortless yet he is able to hit the ball 300+ yards. One of his "secrets" is that he has a very late release of the club which insures that maximum speed is achieved at impact and through the ball. Just because the club is longer does not mean that you have to swing harder...smooth, smooth and even smoother!
Try and watch any good pro swing in slow motion and you will notice that their forearms ONLY really starting rotating from waist high in the downswing to a complete rotation at waist high in the follow-thru. Try it and it will make you longer.
I am 1.69m (5'6") and I am able to hit the ball on average 250m - 280m. My secret is that I use a swing fan to increase the speed of my swing.
And Brian is correct in that you have to get into good shape...stronger (not necessarily bigger) muscles will help you become faster.
The BEST way to add speed to your swing is to INCREASE the rotation of the forearms through impact! However, you have to remember to swing smooth and faster NOT harder! It ONLY matters if you are swinging fast at impact and not from the top of the swing. Just watch Ernie Els' swing if you get a chance
They do not call him the Big Easy for nothing. His swing looks effortless yet he is able to hit the ball 300+ yards. One of his "secrets" is that he has a very late release of the club which insures that maximum speed is achieved at impact and through the ball. Just because the club is longer does not mean that you have to swing harder...smooth, smooth and even smoother!Try and watch any good pro swing in slow motion and you will notice that their forearms ONLY really starting rotating from waist high in the downswing to a complete rotation at waist high in the follow-thru. Try it and it will make you longer.
I am 1.69m (5'6") and I am able to hit the ball on average 250m - 280m. My secret is that I use a swing fan to increase the speed of my swing.
And Brian is correct in that you have to get into good shape...stronger (not necessarily bigger) muscles will help you become faster.
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Sorry bgp,
Your concept is erroneous....
Ernies swing, although it seems "easy" is not...he swings at the same speed as loads of other pros (check Tour Tempo stats)...he doesn't like the name "big easy" either...
Just because his "frame-by-frame" photos show a late release doesn't mean that you should strive to create a late release (by forearm rotation or otherwise)...the release is progressive right from the top, albeit slowly at first and then more active after half way down....if you try to modify and create that late release you are going to be a pretty weird looking golfer...
Real clubhead speed comes from the right arm, not rotating both arms (which is really difficult to time correctly).....and rotating both arms while the left hand is in a state of ulna deviation slightly before impact and impact, adds not one iota of extra clubhead speed, it simply adds rotation to the clubface...
The BEST way to add speed to your swing is to INCREASE the rotation of the forearms through impact! However, you have to remember to swing smooth and faster NOT harder! It ONLY matters if you are swinging fast at impact and not from the top of the swing. Just watch Ernie Els' swing if you get a chance
Try and watch any good pro swing in slow motion and you will notice that their forearms ONLY really starting rotating from waist high in the downswing to a complete rotation at waist high in the follow-thru. Try it and it will make you longer.
I am 1.69m (5'6") and I am able to hit the ball on average 250m - 280m. My secret is that I use a swing fan to increase the speed of my swing.
And Brian is correct in that you have to get into good shape...stronger (not necessarily bigger) muscles will help you become faster.
Sorry bgp,
Your concept is erroneous....
Ernies swing, although it seems "easy" is not...he swings at the same speed as loads of other pros (check Tour Tempo stats)...he doesn't like the name "big easy" either...
Just because his "frame-by-frame" photos show a late release doesn't mean that you should strive to create a late release (by forearm rotation or otherwise)...the release is progressive right from the top, albeit slowly at first and then more active after half way down....if you try to modify and create that late release you are going to be a pretty weird looking golfer...
Real clubhead speed comes from the right arm, not rotating both arms (which is really difficult to time correctly).....and rotating both arms while the left hand is in a state of ulna deviation slightly before impact and impact, adds not one iota of extra clubhead speed, it simply adds rotation to the clubface...
The BEST way to add speed to your swing is to INCREASE the rotation of the forearms through impact! However, you have to remember to swing smooth and faster NOT harder! It ONLY matters if you are swinging fast at impact and not from the top of the swing. Just watch Ernie Els' swing if you get a chance
Try and watch any good pro swing in slow motion and you will notice that their forearms ONLY really starting rotating from waist high in the downswing to a complete rotation at waist high in the follow-thru. Try it and it will make you longer.
I am 1.69m (5'6") and I am able to hit the ball on average 250m - 280m. My secret is that I use a swing fan to increase the speed of my swing.
And Brian is correct in that you have to get into good shape...stronger (not necessarily bigger) muscles will help you become faster.
You're talking about flipping. A confessed, current flipper.
thefuture37
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you think forearm rotation is flipping? do you have COAFF?
Kevin Shields
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Sorry bgp,
Your concept is erroneous....
Ernies swing, although it seems "easy" is not...he swings at the same speed as loads of other pros (check Tour Tempo stats)...he doesn't like the name "big easy" either...
Just because his "frame-by-frame" photos show a late release doesn't mean that you should strive to create a late release (by forearm rotation or otherwise)...the release is progressive right from the top, albeit slowly at first and then more active after half way down....if you try to modify and create that late release you are going to be a pretty weird looking golfer...
Real clubhead speed comes from the right arm, not rotating both arms (which is really difficult to time correctly).....and rotating both arms while the left hand is in a state of ulna deviation slightly before impact and impact, adds not one iota of extra clubhead speed, it simply adds rotation to the clubface...
Agreed. You saved me alot of typing
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