How to avoid over the top effectively?

Status
Not open for further replies.
G

grandetech

New
I am a player very keen at improving during past 4 years, until few weeks ago I start using DV camera to monitor my swing, I discover my swing is hard to avoid over the top. Is there any drill or method or feel of swing to cure this?
 
Burner

Burner

New
grandetech said:
I am a player very keen at improving during past 4 years, until few weeks ago I start using DV camera to monitor my swing, I discover my swing is hard to avoid over the top. Is there any drill or method or feel of swing to cure this?
Click to expand...
Buy yourself a piece of 2x4 timber about two and a half, maybe three, feet in length.

At the range position this timber so that its front end is in line with the forward edge of your golf ball and about a clubhead width outside the edge of the ball that is farthest away from you at address. The 2x4 should be in a direct line with your target.

Stand parallel to the 2x4 at address and make your backswing as close to it for as long as possible and continue until you get to the point where your arms are parallel to the ground - AND PARALLEL TO THE 2X4. Cock your left wrist and then swing down, out and right through the ball without hitting the 2x4.

Once you have mastered this motion move up to a full swing using the same modus operandi.
 
P

pm4610

New
Brian Manzella said:
FIX THE DAMN CLUBFACE!!!

and I mean DURING the whole damn
S - W - I - N - G !!!!!!!​
Click to expand...


Brian,
How does one do this? I have all of your videos/shorts, etc. Which one explains clubface control? Do you have any instructional articles on this? Just point me in the right direction.

Thanks,
p
 
B

Brian Manzella

Administrator
Never Slice Again!

The Never Slice Again article and Beta video BOTH have a lot of information on how not to have an open clubface.

Fix the clubface and you WON'T come over the top for long!
 
G

grandetech

New
I don't slice much, as a matter of fact, I push in most shots.

My club face is pretty closed at the top, my left wrist is flat not cupped, the over the top happen all the time during the downswing due to IMPROPER BODY TURN, it dont spin my right shoulder out for long time ago - otherwise it will slice. Do you need to do anything with your right arm to avoid over the top, I mean do you need to train your right arm especially the motion of forearm release and elbow setting? I found these elements control the arc and plane quite a bit, if not all.
 
S

shootin4par

New
grandetech said:
I don't slice much, as a matter of fact, I push in most shots.

My club face is pretty closed at the top, my left wrist is flat not cupped, the over the top happen all the time during the downswing due to IMPROPER BODY TURN, it dont spin my right shoulder out for long time ago - otherwise it will slice. Do you need to do anything with your right arm to avoid over the top, I mean do you need to train your right arm especially the motion of forearm release and elbow setting? I found these elements control the arc and plane quite a bit, if not all.
Click to expand...
if the face was square you should hit a pull, not a push
 
T

Tom Bartlett

Administrator
"I don't slice much, as a matter of fact, I push in most shots."


If you are pushing the ball, then your clubface is open (relative to the target) and you are swinging to the right. A straight shot means the path and clubface 'match', whether it be a pull push or straight shot.


"My club face is pretty closed at the top."

Not closed, just less open.
 
bts

bts

New
swing intention v.s. ball intention

grandetech said:
I am a player very keen at improving during past 4 years, until few weeks ago I start using DV camera to monitor my swing, I discover my swing is hard to avoid over the top. Is there any drill or method or feel of swing to cure this?
Click to expand...
Fix your intent of "hitting it far and straight".
 
B

Brian Manzella

Administrator
If all else fails...

...and you still come over it....

Fix the DIRECTION your hips move in from the top.

Make 'em go out toward right field.

"Oh, Cross-line Hips. Good for a hitter" — Surely Someonewillsayit

"Whatever works." — Brian Manzella, PGA, GSED
 
G

gumper

New
Living proof

Brian and I worked on this very problem this weekend. Throwing my hips toward right field made a huge difference for me. The three ball drill also helped tremendously. Of course, as Brian always states, don't ignore the clubface. That's the biggest key of all. Twistaway (like I *didn't* do last summer)! Oops, I just showed my age:)

Gumper
 
G

gumper

New
3 ball drill

30yrlayoff,

The outside ball is closer to the "target" ball (maybe 4 inches away?). Brian placed the outside ball just far enough away so that there is room for the clubhead to miss it on the takeaway. As for the inside ball, Brian may correct me, but I would say that it was about 6-7 inches away from the target ball.

Having said that, I believe that you would probably want to adjust the distances as you go along. If you're hitting the top or bottom ball constantly, make the gap a touch wider. As you improve, gradually place the 3 balls closer together.

I hit the bottom ball more frequently than the top ball, but much less frequently as the drill progressed. It felt good!

Gumper
 
rwh

rwh

New
For a full swing pivot at the top of the backswing, the point of the right shoulder is much farther to the rear and to the left of its standard address position.

Take the right shoulder from this new position directly to the ball and you cannot come over the top.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top