How to Shallow Angle of Attack

[lookingtolearn]

WHOA!!!

Angle of Attack is simply where you hit the ball on the arc.

At the bottom—0°

On the way down—negative X°

On the way up—positive X°

This is NOT a plane angle thing.

So why does swinging "under the stick" shallow out the angle of attack? It seems like it would be more of a "plane angle thing."

 

[Shot Limit]

So why does swinging "under the stick" shallow out the angle of attack? It seems like it would be more of a "plane angle thing."

If you have some carry, does this increase your AoA?

IMO, swinging under the stick moves the "hula hoop" back, away from the target putting the ball more towards the flatter spot in the hoop. It's like finding the right spot to set the hoola hoop down for me.

 

[lia41985]

Thanks for your replies, ekennedy!

 

[gumper]

ekennedy,

Your chicken or egg scenario sounds like me. What do you suggest to fix these two gruesome alternatives?

Thanks.

gumper

 

[Kevin Shields]

Find out if its the chicken or the egg first.

 

[gailfcno]

thanks for all the replies. well it turns out i had an upper body lunge that got me way out infront of the ball, so from there i had no other option but to back everything up to get the back of the ball and also had a late flip to square the face. it is a product of playing too much golf in strong winds the upper body lunge accompanied by the feeling of driving the ball into the ground with the clubface give me a really penetrating ballflight, but was not too kind to the greenkeeper or my shafts haha. i was concentrating today to lead with the hips and try to tilt a little more and back extend the results where good. divots where still a bit deep but no where near what they where. thanks again guys for taking the time to post it has been a great help.

 

[lia41985]

WHOA!!!

Angle of Attack is simply where you hit the ball on the arc.

At the bottom—0°

On the way down—negative X°

On the way up—positive X°

This is NOT a plane angle thing.

Brian,

Is that to say that the red and magenta (intersecting) lines display the same angle of attack but different vertical swing planes (the red line demonstrating a steeper vertical swing plane)?

 

[drewyallop]

Is that to say that the red and magenta (intersecting) lines display the same angle of attack but different vertical swing planes (the red line demonstrating a steeper vertical swing plane)?

I could be wrong but I think the answer depends on assumptions. If you assume that "the arc" is part of a circle of fixed circumference and the centre of the circle is fixed then there can only be one vertical swing plane not two. Since the diagram shows two swing planes then it follows that one or both of the swings are not circular, or do not have the same centres or circumference. If this is the case, it cannot be determined if the ball is struck at the "back", bottom, or "front of the arc using this diagram alone.

Are there any errors in this arguement?

Drew

 

[dbl]

Right. I drew the lines assuming different centers of the circle and different low points. I also would allow for non circular arcs, though I don't know what high speed 3D would show concerning that.

 

[westy]

more horizontal motion. turn. move left.
steep = too much down.