I can't feel the "#3 Pressure Point

[SeekerL]

I've been doing some drills trying to sense the pressure on my right index finger, unsuccessfully.

I've tried taking swings with the right thumb off and I've tried the "wet mop drill" (I just stick a club through the arm-hole of a vest and dragged it across the carpet with fair bit of friction).

The only time I can feel some is in my "vest drill" when I make the two right middle fingers lightly touching the grip, and push with the right hand. I just don't think that's right.

Anyone have any idea what I am doing wrong?

Brian has mentioned Ppt#3 is the results of Accumulator #3, the rotation of the left forearm. I wonder if this is what I don't get. But rotating the left arm means my right hand is being left behind so it is counter intuitive.

New to TGM so I might have gotten it all wrong!!

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

As long as the ball is going the distance it should and where you want it aimed (generally speaking to your ability level at present time) it doesn't matter if you feel it or not.

Work more on clubface and clubpath control and worry less about feeling pp #3

 

[SeekerL]

As long as the ball is going the distance it should and where you want it aimed (generally speaking to your ability level at present time) it doesn't matter if you feel it or not.

Work more on clubface and clubpath control and worry less about feeling pp #3

Thanks Jim, I am not unhappy with my distance (although always looking for more) and direction at this time. I just thought that I might be missing a critical element in my swing. I've golfed for more than 20 years and as low as 8 index so I thought if everyone is feeling it why don't I?

I'll just focus on hitting it farther and to the target.

 

[curtisj76]

You are not the only one, I don't feel it either.

 

[pecky987]

neve felt it ever

 

[fronesis]

I feel like I have a pretty good understanding of PP#3. And I'm completely committed to the grip that Brian teaches. But I can't say I've ever truly felt PP#3.

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

What a lot of the PP #3 feel IS, is the feel of the shaft BENDING BACKWARDS after it hits the ball during the impact interval and divot. When you take the right thumb off there is more pressure on your trigger feel to SUPPORT the club through the swing and is also why there is a slight pressure difference but not everyone notices or "committs" enough to the entire right thumb off and thus don't feel it either.

 

[raiderholic]

use to

i had never felt it before either until i got a PBS ( pureballstriker.com )
felt it immediately with just little chip shots. i have heard people say they have used tin foil and built it into the same looking device. that would work to although you will have to rebuild alot. I went to range and would hit 3 with the pbs and 3 without until i began to feel it on every shot. the guy who made it is a really good guy. I bought one and he was on a forum where i was gripping because my damn lab ate my pbs. out of knowwhere he sends me a new one for free. heck of a nice guy. anyway just my thoughts. had never felt this and really wanted to after all the talk about it.

i liked feeling it because I knew the club was lagging if I was feeling it.

 

[ej20]

I think you need a weakish to neutral right hand grip in order to feel it properly.This will get the right trigger finger directly behind the club.If your right hand grip is strong,the trigger finger is more underneath.

If you tried to get it behind at impact with a strong RHG,you will close the clubface too much and hook the heck out of it and so you don't do it and can't feel it.

Just a theory to ponder on.

 

[Guitar Hero]

Opposing Pressure in the grip has a lot to do with it as well as a correct set of the wrists. When the wrists are set correct with opposing pressures you will feel PP# 1, 2 and 3. Is it an important to feel? You bet it is! Do I teach it to all golfers? Yes

To Better Golf,

John W Rohan-Weaver CMAI, GSEM

 

[cmartingolf]

I anticipate the loading and the feeling on PP3 on each shot, down to putt. I like Jeff Evans PBS too.

 

[curtisj76]

I don't know my PP #'s but when I swing I feel it in the last 3 or so fingers in my left hand. That's pretty much it.

(right handed golfer)

 

[cmartingolf]

Check out the 5th minute of this...

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dUzWPHKVzU&feature=channel_page[/media]

Might help..

Cheers,

MC

 

[cmartingolf]

Check out the 5th minute of this file...

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dUzWPHKVzU&feature=channel_page[/media]

Might help..

Cheers,

MC

 

[Guitar Hero]

Check out the 5th minute of this...

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dUzWPHKVzU&feature=channel_page[/media]

Might help..

Cheers,

MC

Tour player instruction at a level any golfer can understand. Well Done!!!

 

[SeekerL]

Thanks everyone for your input and suggestions.

I've heard it advised that Hitters (I likely belong in that group) should actively feel the PP#1 through the thrusting of the right arm and ALLOW the #3 pressure to be felt by a passive right index finger (I am quoting from memory).

Did my "vest drill" again with these two points in mind and I think I am feeling some pressure which maybe transferable to the course. Range is snowed in again so I can't try it just yet.

A special thanks to CMartin for the tip and the video. I noticed how bent and relaxed your right wrist is when you showed it in a front view. I saw the same thing with another instructor on Youtube. Perhaps ALLOWING the right wrist to be bent versus making the right wrist bent also plays a role.

 

[Notorious B.E.N.]

Nice video CM.

 

[cmartingolf]

Bent right wrist

Thanks Seeker. You're right. I don't TRY and keep it bent. The weight of the club helps.

 

[Brian Manzella]

Answers

I've been doing some drills trying to sense the pressure on my right index finger, unsuccessfully.

I've tried taking swings with the right thumb off and I've tried the "wet mop drill" (I just stick a club through the arm-hole of a vest and dragged it across the carpet with fair bit of friction).

The only time I can feel some is in my "vest drill" when I make the two right middle fingers lightly touching the grip, and push with the right hand. I just don't think that's right.

Anyone have any idea what I am doing wrong?

If you want to put "force across the shaft" through impact, without balancing it out with the proper amount of pulling from the pivot and the grip, you are doing it OK. But I wouldn't advise you to do it that way.

Brian has mentioned Ppt#3 is the results of Accumulator #3, the rotation of the left forearm. I wonder if this is what I don't get. But rotating the left arm means my right hand is being left behind so it is counter intuitive.

New to TGM so I might have gotten it all wrong!!

Hmmm...

First of all, I just don't subscribe to the idea that the #3 pressure point is all that important anymore.

But, it is the place you would feel pressure from the rotation of the left arm.

As long as the ball is going the distance it should and where you want it aimed (generally speaking to your ability level at present time) it doesn't matter if you feel it or not.

Work more on clubface and clubpath control and worry less about feeling pp #3

I couldn't agree more.

You are not the only one, I don't feel it either.

I haven't tried to feel it in a long time.

For me, and my students, total improvement.

It is just an IDEA, and one I use every now and then if it need it.

I usually don't.

never felt it ever

No biggie.

I feel like I have a pretty good understanding of PP#3. And I'm completely committed to the grip that Brian teaches. But I can't say I've ever truly felt PP#3.

Again, it is just an idea, it is something that exists in some respects, but not the whole swing the way it comes advertised.

 

[Brian Manzella]

More answers...

What a lot of the PP #3 feel IS, is the feel of the shaft BENDING BACKWARDS after it hits the ball during the impact interval and divot. When you take the right thumb off there is more pressure on your trigger feel to SUPPORT the club through the swing and is also why there is a slight pressure difference but not everyone notices or "committs" enough to the entire right thumb off and thus don't feel it either.

Very True.

Also, it is something that for sure exists more in the change of direction than pre-impact.

i had never felt it before either until i got a PBS ( pureballstriker.com )
felt it immediately with just little chip shots. I had never felt this and really wanted to after all the talk about it.

i liked feeling it because I knew the club was lagging if I was feeling it.

It is a device that will encourage the feel and use of force at this spot.

This will help some folks, but not everyone.

I think you need a weakish to neutral right hand grip in order to feel it properly.This will get the right trigger finger directly behind the club.If your right hand grip is strong,the trigger finger is more underneath.

If you tried to get it behind at impact with a strong RHG,you will close the clubface too much and hook the heck out of it and so you don't do it and can't feel it.

Just a theory to ponder on.

Very true....IF you are trying to feel or use it.

Opposing Pressure in the grip has a lot to do with it as well as a correct set of the wrists. When the wrists are set correct with opposing pressures you will feel PP# 1, 2 and 3. Is it an important to feel? You bet it is!

I don't.

Not to disagree just for effect, but I really don't use it much, and I used to use it ALL THE TIME.

So, what does that tell you?