In addition to NSA

[Ringer]

Let's bring it back! I'm all for discussion. I think you have some very interesting ideas man.

With that thread wasn't the issue extensor action? I thought the issue here was twistaway and a flat left wrist at the top.

The issue was a fold of skin that was getting between my thumb and the grip of the club. It was that fold of skin that was blistering. By separating my thumb from the index finger a bit I eliminated the fold of skin.

However, added to that was the push my right hand was applying to my thumb.

Essentially I could go with a stronger left hand grip and alleviate the problem, but it meant I lost a neutral grip. The idea to move my thumb over was the perfect marriage.

Later I started to realize the thumb shift had other implications which were all very good.

 

[holeout]

The issue was a fold of skin that was getting between my thumb and the grip of the club. It was that fold of skin that was blistering. By separating my thumb from the index finger a bit I eliminated the fold of skin.

However, added to that was the push my right hand was applying to my thumb.

Essentially I could go with a stronger left hand grip and alleviate the problem, but it meant I lost a neutral grip. The idea to move my thumb over was the perfect marriage.

Later I started to realize the thumb shift had other implications which were all very good.

Why did you want/need a neutral grip?

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

I see what you are getting at, Ringer. The key factor in your mind is more the thumb under the club at the top combined with the left thumb placement at address rather than purely because of the address position.
So what Jim said is correct - the thumb placement has no effect on the wrist joint per se, but place it super close to the forefinger or have a weak grip, then ensure the thumb is under the grip at the top and you'll get your cup.
Try this though, super strong grip, left thumb as you suggested, and under the grip at the top - cupped or not?

that's all i'm trying to say and why i didn't want to debate over something superficial. Like i said you can put it where ever you want and still end up with a flat/cupped/arched/bent left wrist.

 

[Ringer]

that's all i'm trying to say and why i didn't want to debate over something superficial. Like i said you can put it where ever you want and still end up with a flat/cupped/arched/bent left wrist.

Jim to me it's not a matter of whether or not something CAN happen. We all know you can still cup your wrist with the thumb moved over. I'm not saying that it is automatic either. However I do think it helps. Pressure points on the grip of the club are not insignificant IMO. You helped me realize that.

 

[Ringer]

Why did you want/need a neutral grip?

To allow me to release the club at a time that I am comfortable with and still square the club-face. If I get stronger, then I must disrupt my timing in order to make contact. I also tend to hit a bigger cut with a stronger grip.