Inactivity of hips

[Rick Dandy]

I assume you are referring to "blocking" the hips in the downswing. This is common in golfers with poor hip joint flexibility and slinging a protruding pot belly .. and usually you find both together.

The brain will not allow the spine to be compromised and injured by wildly throwing a 50-100 lb pot belly around. The brain will abort the hip rotation to stop the momentum of a pot belly to save the spinal chord (which is an extension of the brain).

This sudden stop in rotation will dump all the momentum from the hips and belly upward in the kinetic chain and cause the shoulders to rotate too quickly thus wildly whipping the arms and club in an uncontrollable over the top path.

Blocking the hips and belly also forces the golfer to straighten up and come out of his spine angle, which further contributes to the over the top move. It's a golfswing mess. That's why you see obese golfers with an upright address stance and upright lie clubs ... and then swinging on a flat plane/path as they come into Impact. It just doesn't work!!!

Clearing the hips is required to gradually decelerate the hips and thus create a smooth kinetic sequencing into the shoulders, arms and club. Looking at good golfers from behind, you will see them retaining their spinal tilt into followthru thus completing their kinetic sequencing in an efficient manner.

SteveT 1 or SteveT 2,
Tell the Forum of your experiences among PGA TOUR winners or NCAA All Americans who are 20 percent or more overweight. For example, have you discussed the above "facts" with Craig Stadler, or Clemson star Chris Patton. Did Your father know Mike Souchak? Or Billy Casper? Just a few remembrances might be helpful to the rest of us.

 

[softconsult]

"Looking at good golfers from behind, you will see them retaining their spinal tilt into followthru thus completing their kinetic sequencing in an efficient manner."

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SteveT, you may want to reconsider.

 

[golfdad]

Good idea, sit around on your fat a$$ all day and not eat. Exercise is always over-rated for the lazy!

close, but far from what i said.

first of all, i am not obese. my weight is within the normal range.

i have respect for people of all weight classes. and i don't hide behind the internet to call others names.

for those who have issues with people with weight problems or any other problems for that matter,,,be a man, go up to one and express your feelings in person!

 

[SteveT]

84% of Americans will be overweight by 2030 and of those overweight, 43% will be obese. The AMA is now considering classifying obesity as a chronic disease.

Being overweight means you are prone to developing chronic diseases like diabetes, hypertension, cardiovascular problems, even cognitive problems. A recent study determined that the obese and morbidly obese suffer cognitively and even register lower IQs. Obesity significantly reduces your survival age and makes ya dumb too..!!!

Obese golfers are like an epidemic on golf courses, bouncing around on their golf carts and huffing and puffing about for hours on end. These poor souls just can't seem to face up to their adult problems and inconvenience the healthy .. and that's the stark bitter truth.

What do you look like???

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[Olof Karlson]

SteveT: Calling obese people an epidemy on golf courses is going waaaaaaaaay too far.

You're starting to sound like obese people don't have the right to play golf. They have every right to play golf even though their chances of being good players are smaller than what they would be if they were in better shape.

Poor players can also enjoy a round of golf. If they enjoy golf then they should play golf.

 

[SteveT]

Olof, hej .... this is where I philosophically disagree with you. Playing golf is not an inalienable right, it's a privilege playing on a golf course where others are playing the game too. Just because decrepit obese people can buy golf clubs and pay green fees, that doesn't qualify them as 'golfers'. They are just misguided people who are doing the wrong thing ... just like cigarette smokers and their second-hand smoke stench.

Sorry, but I can't be politically correct about human obesity because it's costing me on public healthcare costs that are skyrocketing because of gluttonous sedentary people and their chronic illnesses going acute. Somebody has to just tell the truth no matter how it may hurt pc feeeeelings..!!!

Btw ... wasn't it in Sweden where new golfers had to take lessons to qualify for playing on the golf courses ... or has it now degenerated to commercial levels where you can play if you pay..??!!!

 

[OLIVER1]

Olof, hej .... this is where I philosophically disagree with you. Playing golf is not an inalienable right, it's a privilege playing on a golf course where others are playing the game too. Just because decrepit obese people can buy golf clubs and pay green fees, that doesn't qualify them as 'golfers'. They are just misguided people who are doing the wrong thing ... just like cigarette smokers and their second-hand smoke stench.

Sorry, but I can't be politically correct about human obesity because it's costing me on public healthcare costs that are skyrocketing because of gluttonous sedentary people and their chronic illnesses going acute. Somebody has to just tell the truth no matter how it may hurt pc feeeeelings..!!!

Btw ... wasn't it in Sweden where new golfers had to take lessons to qualify for playing on the golf courses ... or has it now degenerated to commercial levels where you can play if you pay..??!!!

Steve,
I appreciate what your saying, and while I won't take exception to the quantitative and qualitative analysis you've provided about obesity, I would like to ask the following: What's your point?
Are you suggesting that larger people should be banned from playing, or are you trying to get a rise from somebody else on the forum?

 

[Olof Karlson]

Yes, in Sweden you need to take a beginners course in golf and then complete some tests before you can play on normal courses. There are also pay and play courses where you just have to pay.

I agree with you on that everyone shouldn't play golf. Those who cannot behave shouldn't get to play golf. However most obese people can behave on the course, actually the biggest a**hole that I've player with was in fine physical shape :O That guy should not be allowed to play golf until he proves he can hit a golf ball without taking two minutes. The second biggest a** that I've met on a golf course was an overweight 65+ man, but he's second on my list.

 

[softconsult]

It's like saying over, and over again that people who smoke are expensive and going to die sooner.
Obvious.

Obese people die sooner. Probably, but there are studies that suggest overweight, not obese, people live longer than skinny people. I can confirm that I see far fewer fat people on golf courses than in the grocery store.

Ranting about fat people on the golf course is contrary to your utopian goal of a thinner society. At least
those people are doing something physical, even if they are in a cart. It's not aerobics, but it's something.

We have too much lecturing from our current political poobah's and now we have to listen to you
preach at us. Enough already. You are saying the same things over and over, ad nauseum.

 

[greenfree]

What's the difference between an a..hole like Steve and a fat person? Answer: A fat person can loose the fat, but Steve will always be an a..hole.

 

[natep]

With the number of golfers shrinking in the US, golf courses are in no position to impose a talent prerequisite. Although it's not a terrible concept that a person be able to advance the ball at least 100 yards before getting on a crowded course.

 

[SteveT]

Steve,
I appreciate what your saying, and while I won't take exception to the quantitative and qualitative analysis you've provided about obesity, I would like to ask the following: What's your point?
Are you suggesting that larger people should be banned from playing, or are you trying to get a rise from somebody else on the forum?

I suppose I'm ranting a tad now, but somebody has to tell the recreational golfer who is evidently overweight/obese that he shouldn't be playing golf, turfing the ball and swinging around his blown belly. I consider it an act of kindness telling these terminally ill people they must take drastic action to lose weight ... and genetics is no excuse ...!!!!

A doctor golf friend told me that obese people are "pregnant with death" .... now that's a shocker ...

A rotating, torquing golf swing is the last thing overweight and obese should be doing. Not only are their lower backs compromised by all that cantilevered belly fat, and their legs are usually weak from their sedentary lifestyle ... attempting to torque the body is idiotic, ludicrous, dangerous ... believe it.

Even our BManz knows he must reduce his weight to be presentable on TGC ... that revelation is his own. HEY Brian ... look at Mike Malaska's video (Arizona) .. and that's how you should aspire to look if you want to be considered ...!!!!

 

[footwedge]

Steve T did a big fatty hurt your feelings when you were little? You need a shrink to deal with these issues, maybe you were fat as a kid and other mean kids teased you about your weight, or maybe your just a douche, i'm thinking the latter.

 

[natep]

I appreciate SteveT's insight. His posts have inspired me to get back on the treadmill and start eating less.

 

[footwedge]

I appreciate SteveT's insight. His posts have inspired me to get back on the treadmill and start eating less.

Do you need to be beaten over the head constantly with it or do you think he's made the point by now and it's time to move on.

 

[Rick Dandy]

The Beats Go On.

 

[SteveT]

Now we know the trolls are sensitive fat turds too ... sooooooo obvious ....LOL

 

[golfdad]

i think there are a lot of generalizations here about people being overweight and therefore cannot and should not play golf, or as steve has it,,,stay out of the golf course altogether clearly steve is milking the thesis for its comedian appeal.

i would hate to generalize further, but i would like to draw the distinction between someone who is overweight and severely de-conditioned and someone who is overweight but is good physical condition. and, one more,,,someone who is overweight, in good physical condition and possesses good golf skills. i suspect that many readers here are in this group.

perhaps this group can play even better golf if they lose some weight, but, imo, in the whole scheme of things, it is not necessary for them to have fun playing golf, not to mention to have more fun. there is also no evidence linking weight loss and better scoring. i think to aim to shoot a competitive score is another story because 99.99% of the readers here are not ready for that. missed the boat somewhere in the past. since this is not a medical forum, to argue that the purported weight loss would lead to life saved is futile.

i concur that being severely overweight is indeed a health hazard. but there is no direct relationship between being over-weight and being able to enjoy a round of golf. weight status has no bearing on one's eligibility on the golf course. especially in america!

 

[Bigwill]

I suppose I'm ranting a tad now, but somebody has to tell the recreational golfer who is evidently overweight/obese that he shouldn't be playing golf, turfing the ball and swinging around his blown belly. I consider it an act of kindness telling these terminally ill people they must take drastic action to lose weight ... and genetics is no excuse ...!!!!

A doctor golf friend told me that obese people are "pregnant with death" .... now that's a shocker ...

A rotating, torquing golf swing is the last thing overweight and obese should be doing. Not only are their lower backs compromised by all that cantilevered belly fat, and their legs are usually weak from their sedentary lifestyle ... attempting to torque the body is idiotic, ludicrous, dangerous ... believe it.

Even our BManz knows he must reduce his weight to be presentable on TGC ... that revelation is his own. HEY Brian ... look at Mike Malaska's video (Arizona) .. and that's how you should aspire to look if you want to be considered ...!!!!

I said before that you had a point regarding people needing to lose weight (for their health and maybe their golf, too). But to be honest, this is starting to sound a little personal on your part, Steve. Any good, legitimate points you may have made are being completely lost in what's starting to look less like an objective informed opinion, and more like an underinformed rant.

You have an apparent problem with overweight individuals; that's fine. To each his own. But it has come out in your posts in such a way that few are likely to take what you have to say seriously.

Many of your posts (especially on this particular topic) seem to have the sole purpose of getting under people's skin. That's fine too. I'm just saying that if you ever have anything worthwhile to say, the number willing to hear it and take it seriously is shrinking by the post.

I'm just sayin...

 

[tbone1065]

Do you know who is fat?

I was watching the American Century replay last night and Jerome Bettis is fat. So is Billy Joe Tolliver for that matter. I wonder is SteveT would have the balls to call them fat to their face. Oh wait, I already know the answer to that question.
Anyway, we get it, many people should lose weight.