Is there a TGM approach to putting?
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Brian Manzella
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The Three Imperatives
The Three Imperatives are the approach. Also, keeping your putting motion as similar to your full swing as possible.
"Toe down" putters work best for Dual Horizontal Hinge Action, "45°" balance putters for Angled, "face balanced" for Vertical only.
But....whatever works.
The Three Imperatives are the approach. Also, keeping your putting motion as similar to your full swing as possible.
"Toe down" putters work best for Dual Horizontal Hinge Action, "45°" balance putters for Angled, "face balanced" for Vertical only.
But....whatever works.
tbyeaton0627
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zero pivot....just throwing it out there just in case 
Brian Manzella
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Believe it or not...
Lots of great putters use some pivot.
Lots of great putters use some pivot.
Really, Brian? Is it common? Any great putters do this? I like putting with a small pivot. It seems more consistent and solid.
I experimented with a little pivot in putting practice, but discarded it because I was so sure it was a bad idea. Of course, I've discarded a lot of good ideas because I thought you weren't "supposed to do them.
I experimented with a little pivot in putting practice, but discarded it because I was so sure it was a bad idea. Of course, I've discarded a lot of good ideas because I thought you weren't "supposed to do them.
Damon Lucas
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Crenshaw had a pivot with his through stroke.
How would we define his stroke?
How would we define his stroke?
tbyeaton0627
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How did these great putters use pivot?? you'll have to excuse me Mr. Lucas Crenshaw is before my day
birdie_man
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Bobby Locke baby. Very very noted that he used his pivot.
Mystifies me, really. (how does he doooooo it!....gasp....!)
Mystifies me, really. (how does he doooooo it!....gasp....!)
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tbyeaton0627
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if ben crenshaw was before my day....bobby locke doesnt stand a chance
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I never liked the idea of rocking my shoulders to control the putting stroke, and in the past I used my abdominal muscles to control the stroker.
My approach to putting is now more hitterish and reflects my chip stroke. I use my middle finger to feel the putter head lag, my right hand faces the hole, I deloft the putter face, and use a very linear push stroke.
My approach to putting is now more hitterish and reflects my chip stroke. I use my middle finger to feel the putter head lag, my right hand faces the hole, I deloft the putter face, and use a very linear push stroke.
tbyeaton0627
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So when everyone is referring to using the pivot in putting, are they referring to the rocking of the shoulders??
birdie_man
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Ya I was reading a book by Snead............he got beat by Locke quite a bit apparently. 4 British Opens apparently:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Locke
Ya that's one thing...........basically it would be anything minus the arms/hands.
Locke I think used to kinda rock his whole body. Dunno how it works but apparently he was pretty amazing.
tbyeaton0627
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well like basic motion the shoulders can sometimes fall under the category of the power package and is seperate from the pivot much like basic motion
I believe the pivot in putting refers to allowing the lower body to partake in the stroke, as required. In other words if the lower body wants to move in support of the stroke (the swinging putter) then let it move. Crenshaw disagrees with the so-called modern putting stroke -- a static or rigid lower body as the shoulders and hands rock it back and through. Crenshaw believes this adds tension to the overall motion.
birdie_man
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True enough.
Brian Manzella
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Correct.
If you say someone "uses the pivot" in their putting stroke, it means the PIVOT—like in a REAL pitch shot, in miniature.
Brian Manzella
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Pelz.
I like some of his green reading stuff.
I like some of his green reading stuff.
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