Johnny Miller Swing Sequences 1971 & now 1974 with analysis

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Let me do some pop analysis on the '73 Miller driver swing. Grip too weak. Overswing- club past parallel at top. Too much reverse-C looking after follow through, bad for your back. Left heel rolled too much off the ground on downswing- inconsistent. Swing based on timing, hard to be consistent unless you practice a lot. :eek::p:D
 
He looks like Jack's punk kid brother.

Will swings ever return to this style on tour?

My swing has evolved into an old upright leg drive fat jack type motion... I'm happy.
 
He looks like Jack's punk kid brother.

Will swings ever return to this style on tour?

My swing has evolved into an old upright leg drive fat jack type motion... I'm happy.

"Jack's punk kid brother" is a great way to describe how he looks - I had the same thought! The way he swings is somewhat different because of the way he sets so early, kind of the opposite of Jack, but it does look Jack influenced in other ways doesn't it?

I try to watch Jack youtube videos pretty regularly and also try to swing somewhat the way he swings. He's my Soft Draw model.
 
Let me do some pop analysis on the '73 Miller driver swing. Grip too weak. Overswing- club past parallel at top. Too much reverse-C looking after follow through, bad for your back. Left heel rolled too much off the ground on downswing- inconsistent. Swing based on timing, hard to be consistent unless you practice a lot. :eek::p:D

Don't forget in your analysis - "at least he keeps his head down." :)
 
It's Square to Square!

Hey Brian,

What's your opinion of the Square to Square book / approach? I have that book on my shelf, very difficult nowadays to get copies, but I think it's very interesting. Never could get it to work for woods, but irons with it makes me feel like byron nelson.

Really curious as to your thoughts!
 
His right hand grip is incredible. Has anyone on the site played with such a weak right hand? If so, what do you find as the benefit? It looks much better than a strong right hand, more golf like if that makes any sense.

Mine is pretty neutral. (same with left hand...it is vertical at address I mean)

I know it probably at least creeps into being rotated left of vert. at times.

I would rather have that than the other direction.

Brian do you think he is using more of a Rotated Shoulder turn?

I'm not Brian but I would say yes.
 
Being old helps understand this swing

This is my first post. First brief background. 63 years old, started at age 15. Never very serious about golf until I moved to North Carolina from Seattle, WA in 1978. But I did grow up in Palmer, Nicklaus, Miller era. and remember hitting wedges over the house when parents were away. From 1978 on I was always around an 8 -12 at the various clubs I belonged to during my corporate wanderings. At age 50 I quit golf cold turkey. I started my consulting business, travelled constantly, and simply had zero time for golf. That was around 1995. Never picked up a club or even paid attention to golf until about 2004. Then I was hooked again. However, the equipment had changed. No more Black Balata 100's, drivers that looked like 5 woods of today, or blades that stung your hands on a mis-hit. Replaced by huge headed very long drivers, 9 irons that were really 8 irons, and balls that don't curve much.

This is how is always tried to swing. I was flexible. I always played a fade with a weak grip. Always had the leg movement thing. That was what was in the books I read and saw on tv. It worked, mostly. I still have that lateral slide going on. It's imprinted on my body.

I now play pretty much strictly in our local senior golf league. 56 tournaments a season, middle tees, flighted. Handicap 10.

The age of the Internet brings so much more available information that it boggles the mind. I can say with confidence that I am hitting the scoring clubs, 7 iron down, better than I did 30 years ago. The modern ball just doesn't curve much. Project X shafts inserted in Titleist 695 CB's were
put together with skill by local clubmaker. I also know have time to hit balls
at our local shag range 3 times a week or so.

Problem I have is inconsistency with Driver and fairway woods. I simply can't get my driver, Titleist 907D2 10.5 GD YS6+ Stiff, to fade consistently, more like occasionally. When I forget to be athletic, it's the snap-hook that eats my lunch.


So before this season starts I am doing two things. Going to do a very in depth Driver fitting with different heads and shafts at clubmakers range with all his fancy radar tracking equipment. I stumbled on this site and am fascinated by Brian's plain no-nonsense approach. I am also tickled that he is not a method instructor. He fits his patterns to the person.

So I downloaded the NHA2 video. I can hit a draw, but with this modern equipment I tend to hit it straight. I have watched it once. I swear this is the way I used to swing. But this is much more detailed and easier to understand.

Warming up this week, so plan to give it a whirl.

Steve White
 
This is my first post. First brief background. 63 years old, started at age 15. Never very serious about golf until I moved to North Carolina from Seattle, WA in 1978. But I did grow up in Palmer, Nicklaus, Miller era. and remember hitting wedges over the house when parents were away. From 1978 on I was always around an 8 -12 at the various clubs I belonged to during my corporate wanderings. At age 50 I quit golf cold turkey. I started my consulting business, travelled constantly, and simply had zero time for golf. That was around 1995. Never picked up a club or even paid attention to golf until about 2004. Then I was hooked again. However, the equipment had changed. No more Black Balata 100's, drivers that looked like 5 woods of today, or blades that stung your hands on a mis-hit. Replaced by huge headed very long drivers, 9 irons that were really 8 irons, and balls that don't curve much.

This is how is always tried to swing. I was flexible. I always played a fade with a weak grip. Always had the leg movement thing. That was what was in the books I read and saw on tv. It worked, mostly. I still have that lateral slide going on. It's imprinted on my body.

I now play pretty much strictly in our local senior golf league. 56 tournaments a season, middle tees, flighted. Handicap 10.

The age of the Internet brings so much more available information that it boggles the mind. I can say with confidence that I am hitting the scoring clubs, 7 iron down, better than I did 30 years ago. The modern ball just doesn't curve much. Project X shafts inserted in Titleist 695 CB's were
put together with skill by local clubmaker. I also know have time to hit balls
at our local shag range 3 times a week or so.

Problem I have is inconsistency with Driver and fairway woods. I simply can't get my driver, Titleist 907D2 10.5 GD YS6+ Stiff, to fade consistently, more like occasionally. When I forget to be athletic, it's the snap-hook that eats my lunch.


So before this season starts I am doing two things. Going to do a very in depth Driver fitting with different heads and shafts at clubmakers range with all his fancy radar tracking equipment. I stumbled on this site and am fascinated by Brian's plain no-nonsense approach. I am also tickled that he is not a method instructor. He fits his patterns to the person.

So I downloaded the NHA2 video. I can hit a draw, but with this modern equipment I tend to hit it straight. I have watched it once. I swear this is the way I used to swing. But this is much more detailed and easier to understand.

Warming up this week, so plan to give it a whirl.

Steve White

Good luck Steve...........I was gonna write to you to get NHA but I see that you have already.

You will never be a hooker again.
 
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