Left hand low putting?
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Jim Kobylinski
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I think it is an EXCELLENT method for people who have the yips or a "wristy" stroke.
HOWEVER
As i have been helping my friend Andy via the net (who has a real problem with putting), i have told him time and time again these very words when it comes to putting:
"All i care about is if you can trace a perfectly straight plane line while putting. I don't care how you make that happen. But when you find how you allow yourself to do it, KEEP THAT SETUP AND STROKE."
Why you ask? Because once you have a repeatable stroke that traces a PERFECTLY straight plane line the only other thing you have to "worry about" in putting are 2 things:
1) The speed
2) The line
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IMO i don't think there is ANY REASON why anyone cannot find a way to trace a straight plane line with a putter. The stroke is SO SMALL there is NO EXCUSE.
Now this is going to sound arrogant but it's true; I never knew why i was the best putter i ever knew. Nobody who i played golf with (better/worse/club pro/teacher/etc) was better than me. What i found out is that when i bought my Butch Harmon Laser Training aid (bought for the full swing reason) i found out why i putt so well. I trace taht line! Again and again and again and again.
My stroke is so consistent i can literally setup 40* left/right of target, adjust the putterhead open/closed and push/pull putts into the hole because my stroke doesn't change. LOL, come to think of it...ask brian. The first time i went to see him we went to the putting green and setup about 10 balls from about 10-12 feet (left to right putt slightly uphill). I made either 7-8 and i honestly remember missing one because the hole was TOO FULL OF BALLS! Talk about a "lip out"
. All he told me was, "just remember to keep your tempo smooth but i'm not messing with your stroke." Just like brian and the sand, don't mess with me on the green
HOWEVER
As i have been helping my friend Andy via the net (who has a real problem with putting), i have told him time and time again these very words when it comes to putting:
"All i care about is if you can trace a perfectly straight plane line while putting. I don't care how you make that happen. But when you find how you allow yourself to do it, KEEP THAT SETUP AND STROKE."
Why you ask? Because once you have a repeatable stroke that traces a PERFECTLY straight plane line the only other thing you have to "worry about" in putting are 2 things:
1) The speed
2) The line
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IMO i don't think there is ANY REASON why anyone cannot find a way to trace a straight plane line with a putter. The stroke is SO SMALL there is NO EXCUSE.
Now this is going to sound arrogant but it's true; I never knew why i was the best putter i ever knew. Nobody who i played golf with (better/worse/club pro/teacher/etc) was better than me. What i found out is that when i bought my Butch Harmon Laser Training aid (bought for the full swing reason) i found out why i putt so well. I trace taht line! Again and again and again and again.
My stroke is so consistent i can literally setup 40* left/right of target, adjust the putterhead open/closed and push/pull putts into the hole because my stroke doesn't change. LOL, come to think of it...ask brian. The first time i went to see him we went to the putting green and setup about 10 balls from about 10-12 feet (left to right putt slightly uphill). I made either 7-8 and i honestly remember missing one because the hole was TOO FULL OF BALLS! Talk about a "lip out"
. All he told me was, "just remember to keep your tempo smooth but i'm not messing with your stroke." Just like brian and the sand, don't mess with me on the green Jim Kobylinski
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By the way Hue...i don't know if you noticed but i took pictures of the left thumb placement of "Manzella Neutral" and made a post for you and others.
Also, how in the hell do you have more posts than me?! []
Also, how in the hell do you have more posts than me?! [
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Jim Kobylinski
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Tracing a straight plane line with a laser with your putter is the same exact thing as what practicing with www.theputtingarc.com will do.
It teaches you that the clubhead still travels in a small arc but the putter head is stillpointing at the plane line.
If you put a laser on the top of the shaft and position it so that when the putter head is OFF THE GROUND and faces at the sweetspot of the club, as you make your small arc stroke that laser will point to the plane line the entire stroke.
Whether that stroke is 10" either way, or 30" either way for a 100 ft putt
Here's more of a visual for you:
http://www.lasertrainer.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=20
swingeasttowest
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The putting arc is not compliant with a straight plane line. The arc has a curved top..............imo
rwh
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The curve in the Putting Arc is the Arc of Approach procedure which is compliant with a straight plane line. When the right forearm and/or #3PP is tracing a straight plane line, the clubhead is moving in an arc. If you go to the Putting Arc website and look at the animation on the bottom of the "Why It Works" page, you will see the blue line represents the arc of approach and the red line represents the straight plane line. Here's the link: http://theputtingarc.com/page/mh5e/Why_it_Works.html .
Jim Kobylinski
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Thank you for saving me the trouble...lol
Tracing a straight plane line with your putter and putting with "straight back and straight through" IS NOT THE SAME.
Thanks again rwh
swingeasttowest
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So your saying that if your straight plane line is a bench you lay your putting shaft on, as you putt and make your arc of approach, the heel of the putter head should still touch the arc?????????
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