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lia41985

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Congratulations, Charl Schwartzel!
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BrendanC

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He has always looked good early in the season on the Euro tour - and especially when they play in Africa.

His right foot stays so DOWN - even with 3 wood and driver.
 
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It is an awesome swing, and I really like Jason Day's also. You guys can have Fowler and his silly clothes and haircut. I'll take these 2 guys.
 
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gailfcno said:
yeah i agree lifter, never seen a display of driving and iron play like mcilroys over the first 3 days at augusta. his putting is his big weakness and it let him down badly again.
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He started getting under it today and he's prone to that occasionally. I'm sure we'll see better next time he's in position.
 
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Under it as in "stuck"? Is that what was leading to big hooks? What exactly is McIlroy's swing weakness under pressure?
 
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spktho

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Under as in under plane leading to swinging too far in to out causing the hook. It also looked like he got the right hand a bit too active closing the face as well causing the left to left shots.
 
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lia41985 said:
Gets under which pushes the path too far to the right.
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You know, I would LOVE to see a before / after video analysis to discern whether McIlroy was too far under the plane on Friday and Saturday (when he was knocking down every pin). Who knows, maybe he was under the plane on those days as well and just had his timing down. Maybe that timing went out the window under pressure on Sunday. But that's groundless speculation. Would love to see the video!
 
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Lifter said:
You know, I would LOVE to see a before / after video analysis to discern whether McIlroy was too far under the plane on Friday and Saturday (when he was knocking down every pin). Who knows, maybe he was under the plane on those days as well and just had his timing down. Maybe that timing went out the window under pressure on Sunday. But that's groundless speculation. Would love to see the video!
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Would have to be a Trackman type measuring device to be more accurate and see the numbers. Video might show something, but too many variables to be precise.
 
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lia41985 said:
He started getting under it today and he's prone to that occasionally. I'm sure we'll see better next time he's in position.
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He got under plane his very first swing of the day...his obvious tendency. I'm surprised no one noticed it then. He started that tee shot right of the right bunkers and slung it into the left side of the fairway. I promise you, that wasn't the shot he was visualizing. It was probably the reason he stopped rotating on his second shot and pulled it. It's the reason, IMO, that he tumbles his right shoulder so hard toward the target, in a desperate effort to get the club more "on top." It didn't work yesterday, or at St. Andrews, but he will figure it out eventually.
 
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Didn't James Ridyard mention a while ago that either his HSP or CP was 14º right with his driver? Not a surprise that under maximum pressure that he might have problems matching the face to that path.
 
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Not to mention the psychological effect of realizing early in the round that he had less control of his swing than he had enjoyed the previous three days. It's devestating to any player's confidence, let alone a young player trying to win his first major. It's a snowball effect.
 
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ekennedy said:
Originally Posted by lia41985
He started getting under it today and he's prone to that occasionally. I'm sure we'll see better next time he's in position.

Ekennedy:
He got under plane his very first swing of the day...his obvious tendency. I'm surprised no one noticed it then. He started that tee shot right of the right bunkers and slung it into the left side of the fairway. I promise you, that wasn't the shot he was visualizing. It was probably the reason he stopped rotating on his second shot and pulled it. It's the reason, IMO, that he tumbles his right shoulder so hard toward the target, in a desperate effort to get the club more "on top." It didn't work yesterday, or at St. Andrews, but he will figure it out eventually.

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Not to mention the psychological effect of realizing early in the round that he had less control of his swing than he had enjoyed the previous three days. It's devestating to any player's confidence, let alone a young player trying to win his first major. It's a snowball effect.
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Like these type comments a lot. I heard a lot of talking heads this morning mainly say McIlroy gacked it up because of his inexperience or pressure. But these comments here would more correctly say he gacked it up due a swing fault.
 
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dbl said:
Like these type comments a lot. I heard a lot of talking heads this morning mainly say McIlroy gacked it up because of his inexperience or pressure. But these comments here would more correctly say he gacked it up due a swing fault.
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It's a combination of both...you can believe which one caused which but generally when you aren't comfortable with something and the ball isn't doing what you want then your confidence gets shaken and you lose focus and just keep tumbling down the rabbit hole.
 
BrendanC

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Interesting that Schwartzel's pre-shot rehearsal was all about making sure his left arm/hands got high enough -i.e. he was taking it back, and then lifting them up a few more inches higher in his practice swings.
 
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Agree with the camera angle.The camera is also very close which exaggerates parallax even more.

You have to take into consideration camera angles when studying swings.From this angle,the swing is going to look more underplane than it really is.If the camera was pointing down Rory's heel line,it would look like he's more overplane than it really is.

Having said that,I do think McIlroy does have a tendency to get too much underplane at times.
 
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