Live from Orlando...The Manzella Academy

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Brian Manzella

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Actually we are in Winter Garden at the Orange County National resort.

8 Students, two teachers, one admin. assistant.

What a great day!

One more day to go.

We'll leave this thread for the students to post after the school.
 
It was a great experience. A group of dedicated golfer's that got along and were the to learn and improve their golf games. I'm pleased that I continue to make progress as I move down the path to G.O.L.F. mastery. I don't know if I'll ever get there, but the way is marked. I want to thank Archie Swivel for having the idea to put this together and Brian, Tom and Jennifer for their energy and effort to make sure everything went smoothly.

I was in the minority as the only hitter among swingers but I got a lot of excellent information, drills to improve with, and the chance to play golf with Brian and Tom. I'll second Archie's comment about the way Tom hits the ball. He just pounds the S*** out of the ball and straight with a good touch around the green. He shot a neat 4 under par on the nine that I played with him and was very helpful and insightful with observations on my swing.

The Manzella method of the TGM Basic Motion Curriculum, (waggle, waggle, tap, tap, forward press, turn) was worth the price of admission and has elements to help a player of any ability.

David Leadbetter was present at the PGA show, but I didn't see him hanging around us although there may have been some spies.

It was an excellent two days and hopefull I'll continue to improve.
 

jeffy

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A perfect weekend school: great weather, great practice facility, two excellent courses, eight great guys of reasonably similar ability, knowledge and enthusiasm, two great teachers/players, and a terrific organizer.

A couple of comments. First, for those wondering about Brian's approach and TGM: only the most basic TGM terminology was used, and all the terms are pretty much explained in plain English by Brian. If you are conversant in TGM, great: Brian and Tom can talk to you in TGM-ese; if you don't know a lot of the TGM details, no problem. Brian teaches golf, not TGM.

Second, a lot of us like to discuss golf theory, particularly on the forums, and we chatted a bit about the great swings, the name teachers, "methods" and the like over meals. But in teaching, as well as playing, results are what count. Mine were immediate and significant (one club pick-up within the first half hour; two clubs, occasionaly, by the end of the second day, with more to come, at least according to Brian). As others have said before, Brian has the ability to both get to the key areas that need improving and provide specific, effective changes. By the results I was getting, I was not left wondering if I was on the right path.

Bottom line: I've found my teacher (and he's Italian, in case anyone was wondering...). And, I expect to kick ass on the course in 2006.

Thanks for the great experience Brian, Tom, Jennifer, and everyone else! I hope we can schedule an alumni school later this year.

Jeff
 
OK Jeffy and JP that was good BUT we need the "gory" details

What did Brian or Tom point out that made your swing better.....what adjustments made the biggest difference. What drills were prescribed.

What was Brian or Tom's best "story" :>)
 

jeffy

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quote:Originally posted by rbaumgolf

OK Jeffy and JP that was good BUT we need the "gory" details

What did Brian or Tom point out that made your swing better.....what adjustments made the biggest difference. What drills were prescribed.

What was Brian or Tom's best "story" :>)

OK: guess what? Brian got me to FLATTEN MY LEFT WRIST. We used the credit card-stuck-under-the-velcro-of-the-glove drill (swing such that the card does not "dig" into the forearm from start to finish). We also used a training aid, the only one Brian uses, which was very helpful: it is called the Pure-Swing and is available here: http://www.rovergolf.com/ In addition, since I had developed a "round-house" shoulder move on the downswing to accomodate my old flip, I needed to straighten out my swing path to keep from going left with the new impct position. To do this, Brian had me swing like I was trying to hit a high cut (more axis tilt, left shoulder high and open) which, when combined with the correct "flat" wrist release, produced nice, on-line, boring shots with a little draw.

As far as stories go, Brian had some good ones about Snead, but they are a little too colorful for a public forum. You're just going to have to come to a school yourself if you want to hear them...
 

Erik_K

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My review/thoughts...

Day 1:

We met early for breakfast and introductions were made. We spent all day on the range and Brian and Tom videoed our swings before any adjustments were made.

After the taping, Tom and Brian proceeded to help us individually, or if any two (or more) had the same problem those individuals were brought together so Brian could demonstrate a certain idea, or concept.

Also on the first day Brian, rather vividly, went over the three imperatives.

Day 2:

Brian brought us to a hole on the short course where we went over various short game fundamentals and bunker play. After that we went back to the range and went right back to work and as Jim already stated, Brian went over his basic motion curriculum which is really really neat.

Brian also pointed out that my clubs were nearly an inch too short. Al let me borrow his clubs (we're about the same height) and for the first time ever Brian said I looked (at setup) like a Tour pro.

Dinner after the first day was really special. Brian regaled us with numerous stories about G.O.L.F. It's amazing how much he knows about the history of the game and he can recite every little detail: the weather, location, day and year of each story. His impersonations are hillarious!

Video of my swing showed that I was doing a good job af staying on the turned shoulder plane but I have the dreaded sweep release. The good news is that I know exactly what to work on before seeing Brian again.

To all of those who have the chance to attend a school or private lessons, I would highly recommend it. I met 7 other wonderful students. Tom is also very gifted teacher and his wife did a superb job (despite dealing with some real boneheads at the golf course) of organizing this event. I hope, some day soon, we can organize an alumni school.

As far as golf related activities go, this was the most fun I ever had. I learned more in 2 days than most probably do in a lifetime.

Thanks again, Brian, Tom, and Jennifer. And thanks to all of the other students too who helped me on the range (Darby, Jim(s), Pete, Steve, Jeff, and Al).
 
Brian and Tom want me to maintain my extensor action better throughout the swing, I lose it at the top of my backswing. I need to smooth out my transition from backswing to downswing and not be so abrupt. I need to keep my right shoulder back as I apply the thrusting force with pp#1 and #3 to avoid coming over the top and Brian wants me to have a more upright backswing to get my arms on the turned shoulder plane.

As Jeffy stated, Brian and Tom could explain concepts in simple golfing terms or they could quote the book if thats what you wanted. They both would do anything to make sure you understood what they wanted you to do.

At every demonstration that Brian gave, before we could work on the concepts that he presenteed he wanted 3 questions. The first question was usually a little slow in coming, but after the first question was out, there would be an avalanche of questions from all participants.

Story time with Brian at Charly's Steak House was fantastic. As Eric said Brian has a wealth of knowledge that he is willing to share. His stories about Hogan, Snead, Trevino and the New Orleans golfing greats and not so greats that he has known through the years had everyone cracking up all night. Brian talked about his first experience with Ben and how he went through the same things that I did, feeling like a total motor moron and wondering why he was doing this.

I thoroughly enjoyed the golf and fellowship with fellow golfers and look forward to an alumni meeting.

Lastly, a special thanks to Jennifer for putting up with all of us. She made sure we had food, the range balls were out and kept everything moving smoothly.
 
Hi jetty,
as I'm Italian myself I would like to know the name of your Italian teacher if possible.Is he a follower of TGM?
Thank you
 

vandal

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quote:In addition, since I had developed a "round-house" shoulder move on the downswing to accomodate my old flip, I needed to straighten out my swing path to keep from going left with the new impct position. To do this, Brian had me swing like I was trying to hit a high cut (more axis tilt, left shoulder high and open) which, when combined with the correct "flat" wrist release, produced nice, on-line, boring shots with a little draw.

Man, does this sound familar to me.

Good to hear you guys all had such a great time. Too bad I'm so far away in California -- but there are a couple of pretty good AIs out here I hear.
 

jeffy

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quote:Originally posted by liberoff

Hi jetty,
as I'm Italian myself I would like to know the name of your Italian teacher if possible.Is he a follower of TGM?
Thank you

That would be Brian Manzella; yes, he is certified under TGM...
 

jeffy

Banned
quote:Originally posted by birdie_man

Jeffy...

Did Brian change your grip when he flattened your LWrist?

"Manzella Neutral"?

Brian was generally pleased with my grip, which I guess was already "Manzella neutral"; he did suggest that I move my left thumb a little more to the right toward the side of the shaft to provide more support.
 

Tom Bartlett

Administrator
quote:Originally posted by silvercreek

sounds great but it sounds intimdating if you're a crappy golfer as i subscribe to being...

Silver, We can work with any level of golfer. It just so happened that this entire group was made up of accomplished golfers with a high level of understanding of The Golfing Machine.

I can speak for Brian when I say we enjoyed working with all of you. A lot of learning and a lot of laughs.
 
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