"Making the club act like a club"

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Brian, i think that you use this expression to describe the way that the clubshaft, head and face all act in an optimum way for that individual player so that imperatives are demonstrated and impact alignment and physics are optimised - is that a reasonable interpretation of the way you use this expression? When i swing well , i get a sense of the club just having to do what it does - release, impact and hinge and finishh swivel just happen so easily and sooo quickly.... the club is running on rails!

If so, and this next stage relies on a Gedanken experimental approach, if you could program the club to behave in this way ( individualised to the player) and the player just had to hang on and learn the way that their body needed to react/create this movement .... would this be a uselfu learning tool??

I know the concept of a floating club, repeatedly tracing out an optimum path is a little "Harry Potter" but i once had a few lessons about 20 years ago from a pro who used a contraption which was attached to a wall and moved the grip in a fixed manner ( via swivels and hinges)... anyone else use one of these?

Trouble was backswing was the same path as downswing...but it got one to the top of the backswing in good order...
 

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Brian, i think that you use this expression to describe the way that the clubshaft, head and face all act in an optimum way for that individual player so that imperatives are demonstrated and impact alignment and physics are optimised - is that a reasonable interpretation of the way you use this expression? When i swing well , i get a sense of the club just having to do what it does - release, impact and hinge and finishh swivel just happen so easily and sooo quickly.... the club is running on rails!

If so, and this next stage relies on a Gedanken experimental approach, if you could program the club to behave in this way ( individualised to the player) and the player just had to hang on and learn the way that their body needed to react/create this movement .... would this be a uselfu learning tool??

I know the concept of a floating club, repeatedly tracing out an optimum path is a little "Harry Potter" but i once had a few lessons about 20 years ago from a pro who used a contraption which was attached to a wall and moved the grip in a fixed manner ( via swivels and hinges)... anyone else use one of these?

Trouble was backswing was the same path as downswing...but it got one to the top of the backswing in good order...

Hi BullDog

There Ya Go.....

http://www.gizmag.com/go/3803/

Cheers
 
Thanks Billy - you got a great library of stuff - not just the music!:)


this is low tech version http://mastergroover.com/index.shtml

but the one i had a few lessons on was more mechanical but equally low tech( can't remember the name... and google seems to have not heard of it) anyone else had similar experience with this style of device?
 

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Thanks Billy - you got a great library of stuff - not just the music!:)


this is low tech version http://mastergroover.com/index.shtml

but the one i had a few lessons on was more mechanical but equally low tech( can't remember the name... and google seems to have not heard of it) anyone else had similar experience with this style of device?

Hey BullDog

The Link You Posted is the State School's Version of the Swing Robot... The Link I Posted is the Private Universities Version of Same :D .....
http://members.aol.com/rock50728/bulldog.mid

Cheers
 
Hey BullDog

The Link You Posted is the State School's Version of the Swing Robot... The Link I Posted is the Private Universities Version of Same :D .....
http://members.aol.com/rock50728/bulldog.mid

Cheers

The link i posted is the budget model, i admit, but has at least the virtue of portability....:rolleyes:

- i have checked the videos on your link

http://www.topswing.net/html_engl/home.html

and it is very adjustable device ( alters plane, tempo, wrist cock etc)... maybe not quite as wacky as it looks

Be interesting to see where it has been in the last 2 years - announced at PGA show 2005... then no headline news ....28 h'capper plummeting to scratch overnight....maybe there is more to the short game than the machine can teach!
 
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just seen the videos of this machine again - too slow. If i understand Brian's expression correctly,"Making the club act like a club" means feeling the ra[id and easy dynamic path the club can take if oriented and propelled properly.

The machine gives some idea of alignment but no idea of the dynamics... and the students upper bodies are moving all over the place!
 
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