MANZELLA LIVE FROM MIT!

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Brian Manzella

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Your traveling road-show of a host, BriManz, will attend and 'cover' the first MIT "Better Golf Through Technology Summit."

Day 1:

Just had dinner with Mr and Mrs Dave Edel, Mr and Mrs Ben Doyle and Joe Daniels.

I learned a lot about putter fitting for Dave Edel and held court as is my wont.

An audio tape of which could be sold for $50....easy.

Also saw and spoke to Mike Hebron (for a good while), Rick Martino (for a minute), Laird Small (for about 2 seconds) and should carry a voice recorder.

I am off to count sheep and will return with much on Friday's Summit, tommorrow night!;)
 
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Damon Lucas

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Brian,

What did you learn about putter fiting?
Who is David Edel and what are his teaching preferences?
Has Mike Hebron got anything new to say about learning?

Regards mate,
 
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Brian Manzella

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Dave Edel, is a Authorized Instructor and has a putter fitting system with—I Think—18 MILLION different combinations.

I KNOW when someone knows what they are taking about....and this guy does.
 
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bray

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What is the name of this putter system???
Or what company does David Edel work for??

This would be something I would be interested in getting for my teaching business.

Thanks for you help, Brian.

Sorting Through the Golf Nut's Catalog.

B-Ray
 
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bray

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Never mind I found it, David Edel's site is www.edelgolf.com for anyone interested.

It looks really cool, but probrably pretty expensive.

Sorting Through the Duffer's Bible.

B-Ray
 
Michael Finney

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$8,000 smackeroos...if you're at a facility that could handle the initial overhead, potentially a gold mine....i think retail on the putter is $500...and the fitter obviously has a margin in there to pay for the system and eventually make a profit....they look and feel very, very good...and they are fitted to you in every way

what more could you ask for?
 
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bcoak

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Where did you eat? Shout if you need some recommendations. The North End would be a good trip for a man with Manzella as a last name.
 
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MizunoJoe

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quote:Originally posted by Mike Finney


what more could you ask for?
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Maybe something that is correct? The first step is based on the illusion that the putter should hit the back of the ball, which would only be true if you could putt with a croquet mallet. Just as in the full swing, since the ball is compressed even when putting, the inside of the ball should be struck.
 
Michael Finney

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i hear you, MJ....but are you splitting lasers?.....some will say yes....some will say no

when you go thru edel's fitting.....find out where your laser beam should end up in relation to the target after considering how far on the "inside" part of the ball you should be aiming.....then step 1 would fulfill your strict standards....better yet, get into a heated discussion with him on this website.....if nothing else, the number of hits will go way up......everyone will get some laughs....and the knowledge that you can eek out of the debates (or pissing contests) will make you much wiser....:))
 
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MizunoJoe

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quote:Originally posted by wanole

Is the ball on the face long enough to advise hitting the ball on the inside quadrant with a putter?
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For all but very short putts, yes. Snead's solution was to straddle the ball and do it croquet style, but they changed the rules on him. Most everyone falls for the illusion and tries to hit the back of the ball while correctly moving the shaft straight back and through. They then pull everything, then adjust and push everything, and then go to the final solution - a bent plane line - trying to keep the putter head directly behind the ball, which means the shaft moves on a cylindrical surface.
 
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MizunoJoe

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quote:Originally posted by Mike Finney


when you go thru edel's fitting.....find out where your laser beam should end up in relation to the target after considering how far on the "inside" part of the ball you should be aiming.....then step 1 would fulfill your strict standards
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Right, but it shows the putter lined up at address with the laser pointed at the intended line. The correct way is to to have the laser pointing at the intended starting direction at separation, but I don't know if the system has that capability.

I don't have enough energy left to debate a guy who has already invested that much $$$ and therefore already "knows" everything is kosher with the system. [xx(]
 
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Robbohank

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MJ,

I've seen this debate come up a few times. Any idea if VJ Trolio has/will run any tests on "inside-aft" versus "back of ball" contact? Seems like his putting robot could be used to run some sort of test to validate which is more precise.

Robbo
 
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MizunoJoe

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quote:Originally posted by Robbohank

MJ,

I've seen this debate come up a few times. Any idea if VJ Trolio has/will run any tests on "inside-aft" versus "back of ball" contact? Seems like his putting robot could be used to run some sort of test to validate which is more precise.

Robbo
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I remember the name, but never knew he had a putting robot.
 
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Robbohank

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VJ is the co-inventor of "The Putting Arc". He has a robot called "Iron Archie" - it's a lot like the Dave Pelz putting robot ("Perfy") except that VJ's robot moves the putter on an arc versus Perfy's straight-back and straight-thru motion. (You can check out VJ's putting theories and a pic of Iron Archie on the Putting Arc website).

Seems like the testing would be pretty basic to perform using an Iron Archie machine to hit repeating putts with the only variable being contact point.

Robbo
 
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