Iron Archie looks OK because the laser tracks the sweetspot on the putting line keeping the shaft on plane. The other stuff has the same problem as The Railer described in the other thread. They force the putter head to take a specific radius arc - one size fits all - NOT! A correct device guides the shaft not the putter head.
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Iron Archie looks OK because the laser tracks the sweetspot on the putting line keeping the shaft on plane. The other stuff has the same problem as The Railer described in the other thread. They force the putter head to take a specific radius arc - one size fits all - NOT! A correct device guides the shaft not the putter head.
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DAY 1 of MIT's "SUMMIT"....
Laird Small id a presentation on data collected with a 'swing vest' of sensors. It showed some good data, some strange data, and some stuff I saw from BioVison in the early 90's.....B-
Jim Suttie did a talk on factors that good players do. It was a fair video presentation on grip 'matching' the swing, and what good players like Chip Beck and Grant waite do in their swings. It also included a long driver who swung down PERFECTLY on the squared shoulder plane, which Jom didn't like but I thought was fine....B-
Joe Assell: Accurate Diagnosis of Body-Related Swing Flaws. This a Golf TEC dude who show some good stuff but had a thesis that was unreal in its goofy-ness. They have 30 PGA pros try to identify 'flaws' to see if their eye was as good as a swing sensor vest rel-time measurement device. It wasn't—no kdding....B-
Jimmy Ballard: The Forces of the Golf Swing and How They Accommodate the Natural Hinges of the Body @ MIT. Really. Jimmy Ballard came in like Elvis right on cue, did a great Jimmy Ballard talk about the backswing pivot and a HORRIBLE talk about the downswing. In the question segment, Bern Doyle asked if Jimmy would fix Annika's (not his student, but his model) left heel up at impact. He repliled "No, it's PERFECT!"
....would have been a B- but the Annika answer moved him down to C+
Gerry James: Efficient Movement of the Correct Golf Swing. A fitness guru and teacher. Not bad, but too much strecthing and not enough hard core info.....B-
Mike Adams: Effects of Initial Conditions on Performance. Sounds really scientific. But here is my accurately-renamed title.
"How turning in the left foot helps hackers who slice." -really? No kidding. I asked him about how it also influnced axis tilt and he was exactly wrong in his answer. Correct answer—less foot flare, more tilt. Asl O'Grady.....B-
Panel: Technology's Impact upon the Teaching of Golf. It really stunk. Everyone I talked to agreed. The speakers should have been on their own, they weren't bad per se, just poor as a group....D
Rick Martino: Transferring Practice Skills to the Golf Course. I really want to talk at a PGA Summit and Rick runs them. But...It really was a silly research project and so-so presentation, so....C+
David Edel: The Impact of Putter Fitting on Performance. Dave Edel did a great presentation on putter fitting. He was nervous, but did fine. he gave Ben Doyle a lot of credit, which he deserves, and then showed data on Putter fiitting's effect on making putts. It helps...A
Michael Hebron: The Science and Research Behind Reaching for Optimum Potential through Brain-Based Learning. Mike a friend of mine, but I reeally don't agree 100% or even 80% with the thesis. "You can't teach anyone a new movement without there brain shutting down." Sometimes Yes. Most of the time —if you can teach a lick—...no. So.....B
Ben Doyle, Chuck Cook and James Leitz ALL talk Saturday.
Wish 'em luck.
Laird Small id a presentation on data collected with a 'swing vest' of sensors. It showed some good data, some strange data, and some stuff I saw from BioVison in the early 90's.....B-
Jim Suttie did a talk on factors that good players do. It was a fair video presentation on grip 'matching' the swing, and what good players like Chip Beck and Grant waite do in their swings. It also included a long driver who swung down PERFECTLY on the squared shoulder plane, which Jom didn't like but I thought was fine....B-
Joe Assell: Accurate Diagnosis of Body-Related Swing Flaws. This a Golf TEC dude who show some good stuff but had a thesis that was unreal in its goofy-ness. They have 30 PGA pros try to identify 'flaws' to see if their eye was as good as a swing sensor vest rel-time measurement device. It wasn't—no kdding....B-
Jimmy Ballard: The Forces of the Golf Swing and How They Accommodate the Natural Hinges of the Body @ MIT. Really. Jimmy Ballard came in like Elvis right on cue, did a great Jimmy Ballard talk about the backswing pivot and a HORRIBLE talk about the downswing. In the question segment, Bern Doyle asked if Jimmy would fix Annika's (not his student, but his model) left heel up at impact. He repliled "No, it's PERFECT!"
....would have been a B- but the Annika answer moved him down to C+
Gerry James: Efficient Movement of the Correct Golf Swing. A fitness guru and teacher. Not bad, but too much strecthing and not enough hard core info.....B-
Mike Adams: Effects of Initial Conditions on Performance. Sounds really scientific. But here is my accurately-renamed title.
"How turning in the left foot helps hackers who slice." -really? No kidding. I asked him about how it also influnced axis tilt and he was exactly wrong in his answer. Correct answer—less foot flare, more tilt. Asl O'Grady.....B-
Panel: Technology's Impact upon the Teaching of Golf. It really stunk. Everyone I talked to agreed. The speakers should have been on their own, they weren't bad per se, just poor as a group....D
Rick Martino: Transferring Practice Skills to the Golf Course. I really want to talk at a PGA Summit and Rick runs them. But...It really was a silly research project and so-so presentation, so....C+
David Edel: The Impact of Putter Fitting on Performance. Dave Edel did a great presentation on putter fitting. He was nervous, but did fine. he gave Ben Doyle a lot of credit, which he deserves, and then showed data on Putter fiitting's effect on making putts. It helps...A
Michael Hebron: The Science and Research Behind Reaching for Optimum Potential through Brain-Based Learning. Mike a friend of mine, but I reeally don't agree 100% or even 80% with the thesis. "You can't teach anyone a new movement without there brain shutting down." Sometimes Yes. Most of the time —if you can teach a lick—...no. So.....B
Ben Doyle, Chuck Cook and James Leitz ALL talk Saturday.
Wish 'em luck.
birdie_man
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(good luck!)
Steve Khatib
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Gee, Brian youre grades are very generous!
Do you give them a 'C' grade just for turning up?
What were Ben's grades for each speaker? It is always fun to hear him say 'its all smoke and mirrors'.
Do you give them a 'C' grade just for turning up?
What were Ben's grades for each speaker? It is always fun to hear him say 'its all smoke and mirrors'.
swingeasttowest
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Mizuno that was great. How many swings did Jimmy ruin in the 80's....LOL
Michael Finney
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wrong again, MJ......i haven't bought the system.....that kosher?
Mike,
You earlier wrote,
"better yet, get into a heated discussion with him on this website.....if nothing else, the number of hits will go way up......everyone will get some laughs....and the knowledge that you can eek out of the debates (or pissing contests) will make you much wiser....
)"I was refering to Edel, not you.
Michael Finney
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my mistake.....sorry, mj
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