More bent over at setup to help being underplane?

[bennetts]

Hi Guys

First post for me - thanks for all the vids and info - my game has improved alot from this site.
I have recently been swinging too inside out and getting big time right to left spin, so I checked out NHA2 and also had a lesson from my pro.
The info in NHA2 is great and I am using the pattern and drills with good results.
One thing my pro said, which was not mentioned in the vid, was for me to setup slightly more bent over, the idea being it would stop my arms dropping too far inside in the transition, which could happen with an upright posture.
Is this valid, and something that would augment the NHA2 info?

Many thanks

 

[twitch127]

One thing my pro said, which was not mentioned in the vid, was for me to setup slightly more bent over, the idea being it would stop my arms dropping too far inside in the transition, which could happen with an upright posture.
Is this valid, and something that would augment the NHA2 info?

I would be careful with this. If your'e a hooker your have too much axis tilt during the downswing. Setting up more bent over allows for more axis tilt which is the opposite of what you want. Look at most people on tour who move it left to right - Toms, Montgomery, Singh, Watson- Quite tall over the ball to stop excess axis tilt and bending the plane line to the right during the downswing. Tell your pro that the shoulder path ie. axis tilt dictates the path of your arms.... not the other way around. You probably want to feel "standing taller" and letting your right shoulder move out and around to the ball a little more " the carry" that brian talks about (or plane line rotation)

 

[lookingtolearn]

Also, if you bend over too much (not saying you are), it is difficult to unwind correctly through the ball. Not good for a hooker/underplaner.

 

[suns11111]

Bennetts-

Hello. Everybody type is different. Is your hooks due to swinging too much to the right?
If so without changing any other variable, experiement with nearly vertical to really bent over (without hurting yourself), if this does not solve the hooks (hitting consistent with the desired flight/distance), check this one off your list and on to others info on NHA2.
JeffS

 

[cmartingolf]

Twitch brings a great point...

Carry, carry, carry....

The more tipped over you are, the more difficult it is to carry the arms. I was always into "down before around" and I over cooked that idea. Now, I'm clearly "around before down," and I don't loose the ball left any more (I love saying that!!!!)

 

[tourdeep]

Hi Guys

One thing my pro said, which was not mentioned in the vid, was for me to setup slightly more bent over, the idea being it would stop my arms dropping too far inside in the transition, which could happen with an upright posture.
Is this valid, and something that would augment the NHA2 info?

Many thanks

Hi Bennetts...!

IMO, it is valid if it works for you. If not, try something else.

The amount of upright stance or bend is really hard to tell without seeing the before and after and may not be the root of the problem. Hopefully, your pro will know more. Trying different methods can help to identify what works for your body and if it's consistent, nothing wrong with it.

Or,,,
adjust your hand path...try getting your forward hand to appear closer or inside your forward toe than you are normally accustomed to when you gaze downward at impact and definitely inside left of the toe during follow thru....

Or,,,
The three ball drill may help.

And....from "my notes" section directly from "Neo"...


The Yellow Brick Road
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For those of you who may not know, "The Yellow Brick Road" in the Manzella lexicon is simply the visual of the clubhead—to the golfer—as the clubhead goes up plane after low point.

To answer Jim's questions, the first question that has to be answered is this one: Why would a golfer swing too far to the right in the first place, since most golfers swing left of the "yellow brick road"?

Well, lets go back one more level, the reson most golfers swing "left of the yellow brick road," or more precisely, swing through the ball below the plane, is because they have an open clubface and are trying to "play their slice,"a and start the right curving ball left (enough) of the target.

So...Why would a golfer swing too far to the right in the first place, since most golfers swing left of the "yellow brick road"?

Because the clubface is TOO CLOSED!

So...Jim asks: "What are some common problems that prevent one from swinging left enough after impact? (And), My question is concerning swing mechanics not ...all of the...mental garbage."

Here is a short list:

1. Having the right shoulder move below the plane

2. Excess axis tilt

3. Hips and shoulders not opening enough

4. Over-Acceleration

 

[bennetts]

Thank you for your replies.
They confirm what I had found out in practise, that being more bent over didnt really help.
I will continue to work with the NHA concepts and my normal posture.
Cheers all.