My experience with an AI in Austin

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Dr_J

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Just took my 2nd lesson ever today. Not sure the first one should even count (just terrible info, really). Have been very interested in TGM for the last year and feel it is definitely the way for me mainly because it is based in something (science and physics), not just the tip of the week. Had a week of vacation this week and really wanted to get the family out to New Orleans to see the town and see Brian a time or two. Unfortunately I have an 8 week old and a couple of nights of fever wiped those plans out. Been in contact with a guy from the Chuck Cook Golf Academy, Layne Savoie for a number of months. I decided to give him a try since he is an AI and I have come to find that in most teachers, that means some sort of quality. Couldn't afford Chuck himself especially on a long term basis which is what I was looking for.

Well, I could not be happier for giving this guy a try. He is excellent. Teachings strongly founded in the physics and geometry of the swing. I am a low 80's shooter who has been ver erratic as of late due to working a ton. He got results quickly both on film (angles and plane wise) and with ball flight. He is a very up and coming teacher in my opinion.

Anyway, my encouragement is this: I have been reading TGM. I got Brians videos (which are bar none the best I have seen as far as teaching the swing). I got Bens video (also more than excellent). I know flat left wrist, bent right, pp #3, and the swing plane. But like Homer says, it really doesn't come together (at least not for me) until an AI can show you how. I had been trying, and getting results, but to be shown especially in person and on video at the same time, was just invaluable.

Go see an AI. If you are near Austin, I would not hesitate to give Layne Savoie a try.
 
Dr. J.

Layne is a good guy, probably one of the best here in the Austin area. I saw him about this time last year. He is very knowledgable but I don't think he is an AI. Not listed on the TGM website anyway. The only negative I have is not with Layne, but the philosophy of Chuck Cooks school was to get you on the elbow plane with a zero shift stroke. Works for some, just not for me. I'm a turned shoulder plane, single shift guy. Glad you had a good experience with him. I had the opportunity to spend a few hours with Ben Doyle last week which was far and away the best golf education I have had to date. Highly recommend it if you ever find your way to No. Cal.

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Dr_J

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I don't know the exact terminology, but Layne is a GSEB. I thought that made him an AI, but I am not sure. Can you explain to me here or by PM this zero shift philosophy vs single shift?
 
I can't dispute that Layne is an AI. Ben may have certified him, he just isn't listed on the new TGM website. Anyway, if you have a copy of The Golfing Machine 6th edition, you will find a description of the Elbow Plane in 10-6-A and Zero shift in 10-7-A. These are just stroke variations. It is more of a classic swing that is very flat. Hands generally about shoulder high at the top or end of the backstroke. No plane shift on the backstroke or downstroke. The hands and clubshaft ride on the elbow plane established at address. See the photo in 10-6-A.
A single shift usually starts on one plane and shifts to another during the backstroke. Or it can take a single plane up to the top of the stroke and shift to another on the way down. It isn't a philosophy, just an acceptable variation that players can use. There are several other plane variations that are OK.
I just don't agree that a school or academy should try and mold students to one of the variations. Hopefully they have lightened up on their approach or maybe I am way offbase. I hope so because I really like Layne. If they have, I will take my "single shift" backstroke and "turned shoulder" downstroke plane back to him and have him help me load, store, store, store, store, and dump.
 

Dr_J

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Turfspanker,
I see...sorry, new to the TGM stuff. Layne didn't have me that flat. My hands were definitely higher that my elbow plane. But he had alot of things to work on with me =) , so maybe the zero shift plane is still to come? It is funny the way you put that last part, I haven't heard anyone use the word dump as much as Layne when talking about a golf swing =)...but then again early early dumping was my main problem.
 
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