My lesson with Brian

[adamscot89]

The "tumble" is a great way to cure under-plane syndrome. Basically you begin your downswing like usual, trying to come down on plane, but as your hands work down towards the ball, you begin to let the clubhead "tumble" outside your hands or away from your body, almost as if there is mud on your clubface and you want to let it sling directly away from you in the direction that you are facing. If you let the club work outside your hands like this and perform a proper pivot and the same time, you will not swing to far the right or underplane, pretty much guaranteed. The main thing to remember is to pivot while doing this, and that this is not a flip, you are not letting your left wrist break down you are rotating the entire left forearm while maintaining your wrist angle, and your are not letting the club fall towards the ball, but away from your body. Any instructors please feel free to correct any errors

The "tumble" another valuable Manzellism to have in your book.

 

[rogerdodger]

aha, thanks for the explanation, got it now

 

[rchang72]

Tumble graphic

Sorry, no one to shoot pics of me at the driving range. Hope the graphic helps some.

The tumble, for me, feels like the clubhead is cast outside the line. From overhead view, the clubhead pointed towards the line. From the side view from the target it feels like it goes over the plane line. I do it at the top of the swing, by rotating the left forearm until the back of my left hand faces the ground. Important fact, the arms don't change position and I don't pivot yet. This probably adds some twistaway. Brian did say this position would mirror the "wedding ring up" finish swivel.

The two balls are shown on the overhead view. The second ball is along the arc of the clubhead. I was supposed to hit both balls with one swing.

BTW this is feel and my actual swing looks nothing like the feel or graphic (at least I hope so!)

 

[Wolfman]

Tumble graphic

Sorry can't see the graphic (box with red X). Is it me or did it not get onto the forum?

 

[curtisj76]

Sorry can't see the graphic (box with red X). Is it me or did it not get onto the forum?

Hell, I don't even see the box with the red X. I'm running firefox.

 

[alexlimco]

Hell, I don't even see the box with the red X. I'm running firefox.

But then the secret not supposed to be out yet Patience is a virtue.

 

[rchang72]

Sorry, guys. I'm not sure why it doesn't show up. Can anyone tell me how to attach it to a post? The FAQ says there's an attach button in the reply, but I don't see one anymore.

 

[kdvols]

Graphic is there now

I can see the graphics now. They help explain the tumble. Thanks.

 

[ssssc]

I can see the graphics now. They help explain the tumble. Thanks.

hmm, i cant see it in firefox or explorer ...

 

[rchang72]

hmm, i cant see it in firefox or explorer ...

I've got it web hosted on a Yahoo group site that I run. May only be up when I'm online.

I'm trying from another site.

<a href="http://s961.photobucket.com/albums/ae91/rchang72/?action=view&current=tumble.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae91/rchang72/tumble.jpg" border="0" alt="tumble pic"></a>

 

[ssssc]

ty 72...

 

[curtisj76]

I can see that, thanks!

 

[curtisj76]

It's not a throw action is it? Not sure how to interpret the "fling the mud off".

 

[rchang72]

It's not a throw action is it? Not sure how to interpret the "fling the mud off".

Brian did say that one image was the right hand throw. But for me, I got better results by working on rotating the left forearm, thus pushing the club handle into my right forearm.

 

[dannyc]

It's not a throw action is it? Not sure how to interpret the "fling the mud off".

let's say you have started down, and as the club is getting towards vertical, you take your right hand from a "palm facing out" to "palm facing down."

 

[adamscot89]

Right, it is not a throw per say, you use your pivot and your forearm rotation to "fling the mud off" while letting the club fall away from you. Not a flip