NEW!! Manzella Definition of a Method Teacher.

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Brian Manzella

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A method teacher is a person who keeps teaching their student the same thing even if they knew something not part of their method would help the student more.
 
A method teacher is a person who keeps teaching their student the same thing even if they knew something not part of their method would help the student more.

I think this is baloney unless I'm interpreting this wrong. I think a method teacher is a teacher that keeps teaching the same thing because that's really all they know. The way I'm reading your post Brian is that you think Hank knows how to fix him but won't because it's not a part of his method. No way! I think Hank doesn't know how to fix Tiger. If he knew he would fix him, no matter what it took. You know a HELL of a lot more than me about golf but that's just my opinion.
 
It could be that's really all they know, for some maybe. I'm leaning more towards, they belive the method they teach is the best. Not that this thread has anything to do with HH but in his case, I think he belives his way is the best.

Method Teacher - Teacher that uses a particular method that he/she was taught or that he/she belives is the best way to play regardless of the golfer.
 

ej20

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I think the vast majority of instructors will always be method teachers.Teachers need to demonstrate what they are teaching in order for them to have any credibility.

You wouldn't go to Hank to learn S$T because although he might know the pattern,he most likely could not demonstrate it.If you can't demonstrate it,then most likely you will not know the nuances of the swing although technically on paper you might know the method well.

Instructors will always teach the method that works best for them and what they are most comfortable with.I think that's natural.
 

ej20

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We all have a preference for a particular method.Even Homer had a preference even though his book was not an instruction book but a catalogue of components.

How many instructors have multiple swings they can demonstrate?How many can do a Nicklaus swing and smash the crap out of the ball and then do a Hogan swing and do the same?

One swing method is hard enough to master.

I am not defending any one instructor but trying to offer an explanation why most teachers only teach one method.
 
Why the demonstration emphasis?

Harvey Penick couldn't demonstrate anything. He taught from a wheel chair.

You think Peyton Manning could get a pointer or two from a coach or ex-QB that couldn't demonstrate the information better than he could?
 

ej20

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Why the demonstration emphasis?

Harvey Penick couldn't demonstrate anything. He taught from a wheel chair.

You think Peyton Manning could get a pointer or two from a coach or ex-QB that couldn't demonstrate the information better than he could?

I don't think you are understanding my point.I didn't say one couldn't teach a method if they could not demonstrate although Harvey could have if not for old age.

Most instructors would feel more comfortable teaching a method they could demonstrate because they would feel it would give them more credibility with their students whether or not that is important.
 
You're right. I am not seeing the connection of the ability to demonstrate with whether or not someone is a method teacher.
 

ej20

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To get back on topic,I think Brian has a very good point about one method teachers.

If their method is clearly not working for the student then they should admit it,change tack or tell them to see someone else.
 
I have met quite a few method teachers and I feel very confident that Brian's assessment is accurate. I have watched some lessons given and the student clearly could have been fixed by deviating from the method but the teacher wouldn't and it seemed that protecting their brand is a lot more important than the student.
on the other side Martin Hall actually told me last year that a lesson he had given me 8 years before was all wrong and that he had learned since then from Ben Doyle and really improved.
 
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