New Release - Luke Donald

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excuse me for being obtuse//

How is it "new release" when players past and present, as submitted, have been using it already?
 
How is it "new release" when players past and present, as submitted, have been using it already?

Is " Examples of swings with moments in time that demonstrate and could support the release ideas"

better??


Maybe they intuitively already do it, maybe some parts have and are being taught currently, and maybe it will be pieced together better than before for all to do.
 
It's new in the way that a lot of "pop" instruction doesn't teach this. Lag by drag is rife throughout the golfing teaching land, even though those who hit it best don't lag by drag

New as in it's not in a numbered verse or paragraph of what some may consider the yellow bible :p

Let's all enjoy the blasphemy :eek:
 
it's so easy to sit on the sidelines with this entire discussion......let others take a stand (produce a video and explain what they mean)...while others sit back and decide what side of the fence they want to fall on...where are the other 8 minute videos from all the others sides of this discussion....from the teaching pros that is
 
Just like nobody talked about attack angle before BMan/Trackman (Gary Waren should be ashamed for trying to claim that he did when his work never, ever had such discussion and especially it's affect on the club path), nobody has talked the release the way BMan/Jacobs is/are talking about it right now. I'm sure that the new ballflight laws always existed, but there still new because nobody could describe the ballflight laws correctly.

Nobody ever told me that the low coupling point happens much, much sooner than the low point of the club. That is revolutionary for my game and helping me control low point. I've found that many pros have revisionist history and will claim that this was always taught. Where? There might have been a brief discussion somewhere, but nothing like BMan/Jacobs are doing right now. I thank you them for their efforts.
 

lia41985

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it's so easy to sit on the sidelines with this entire discussion......let others take a stand (produce a video and explain what they mean)...while others sit back and decide what side of the fence they want to fall on...where are the other 8 minute videos from all the others sides of this discussion....from the teaching pros that is

Ya need balls if you want to lead the way. Most teaching pros are poosies, or have nae baws, as they say in the part of the world I hail from. They just want to follow someone they think makes them look good. Apologies to all teaching pros who feel insulted.

cwdlaw223 said:
I've found that many pros have revisionist history and will claim that this was always taught.

Some did teach some of this though. As for the others, who cares really?
 
Just like nobody talked about attack angle before BMan/Trackman (Gary Waren should be ashamed for trying to claim that he did when his work never, ever had such discussion and especially it's affect on the club path), nobody has talked the release the way BMan/Jacobs is/are talking about it right now. I'm sure that the new ballflight laws always existed, but there still new because nobody could describe the ballflight laws correctly.

Nobody ever told me that the low coupling point happens much, much sooner than the low point of the club. That is revolutionary for my game and helping me control low point. I've found that many pros have revisionist history and will claim that this was always taught. Where? There might have been a brief discussion somewhere, but nothing like BMan/Jacobs are doing right now. I thank you them for their efforts.

"All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed, second, it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident."Arthur Schopenhauer
 
Ya need balls if you want to lead the way. Most teaching pros are poosies, or have nae baws, as they say in the part of the world I hail from. They just want to follow someone they think makes them look good. Apologies to all teaching pros who feel insulted.



Some did teach some of this though. As for the others, who cares really?

What teacher(s) talked about attack angle and its affect on club path prior to Trackman? Teachers taught in 2D not 3D prior to Trackman. I've never have seen a written article on the topic still to this day in Golf and/or Golf Digest (which aren't my only sources).
 
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C'mon man. Do you think none of those guys using a plane board never noticed that the cub comes from the inside till low point? Tens of thousands of full time teachers and NOBODY noticed? Undeniable is that nobody knew exactly what effect all this had on the ball flight until the first accurate LMs showed up. And undeniable that LMs and in particular TM changed the golf world forever.
 
C'mon man. Do you think none of those guys using a plane board never noticed that the cub comes from the inside till low point? Tens of thousands of full time teachers and NOBODY noticed? Undeniable is that nobody knew exactly what effect all this had on the ball flight until the first accurate LMs showed up. And undeniable that LMs and in particular TM changed the golf world forever.

Yes Wulsy I do! Nobody talked about this stuff in their instruction. For players with higher ballspeeds the attack angle is very important. If you fight hooks all of your life you feel cheated because it was there all the time. I don't blame instructors, just disappointed that my best physical years are behind me and Trackman is here.

I aslo find it odd that Golf and Golf Digest have yet to do a real article about the importance of Trackman.
 

Brian Manzella

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How is it "new release" when players past and present, as submitted, have been using it already?

I run a golf website for a living.

I "profile" everybody on this site that posts a bit.

I have no idea what, where, or when you are coming from "golf dad."
 

Kevin Shields

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Yes Wulsy I do! Nobody talked about this stuff in their instruction. For players with higher ballspeeds the attack angle is very important. If you fight hooks all of your life you feel cheated because it was there all the time. I don't blame instructors, just disappointed that my best physical years are behind me and Trackman is here.

I aslo find it odd that Golf and Golf Digest have yet to do a real article about the importance of Trackman.

Cw, remember that you were relying on people that only had published stuff. I know at least a few that knew that if you hit it on the way down you were still going out.
 
Cw, remember that you were relying on people that only had published stuff. I know at least a few that knew that if you hit it on the way down you were still going out.

All I had access to was the published instructors. Didn't know where to go before this site. Shame!!! What could have been????? Always had the desire. 40 is not the new 20!
 
Yes Wulsy I do!

OK. But I'll bet you don't know 20,000 golf pros. So you don't know for sure. It's not very complicated at the end of the day.

But it cannot be denied that all those sheep golf pros, getting their certified this and certified that instructor status and who just followed the trends of the day have a lot to answer for. Some took pride in their cult membership status because they were too inadequate to be their own men. No offence intended.

In any profession, those who think for themselves are in a small minority.
 
Fair enough. I was with the masses unfortunately.

I'll tell you what I tell my wife! I know, just ask me!! ;)
 
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From what I've seen, the new release basically = a new way of understanding and explaining, not a new move.

The move is relatively timeless (physics), but the new understanding and explanation gives average Joe golfers (like me) a chance to hit it better.
 
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