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GeoffDickson

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Golfers,

I have had a chronic inside takeaway prpblem. Using my iphone, swingreader, and my dining room table I have practised at length and have improved immensely. I realise that the shaft plane is not the be all and end all of backswing planes, but I know that hit it like crap whenever I am under this plane.

My most recent improvements are underpinned by a 90* rotation of the shoulders during the takeaway. In using the approach I can get the club head and shaft sit right on the shaft plane most of the time. I also utilise a one-piece takeaway.

I notice that some of the pros (e.g. Tiger) use a swing plane that is much steeper than the shaft plane. Is my observation correct? Could it be that the cameras are not in the correct position to judge the plane accurately?

I do every thing I know to get the shaft steep, and the shaft plane is as high/steep as i can get it. My question is not so much whether this is any good or better than my shaft plane 'ideal', but rather HOW do they get it on this much steeper/higher backswing plane?
 
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In my opinion, the quickest way to steepen backswing plane is to cup your left wrist at address - three feet of difference in the path of the clubhead........don't know if it is a real swing fix or not
 
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GeoffDickson said:
Golfers,

I have had a chronic inside takeaway prpblem. Using my iphone, swingreader, and my dining room table I have practised at length and have improved immensely. I realise that the shaft plane is not the be all and end all of backswing planes, but I know that hit it like crap whenever I am under this plane.

My most recent improvements are underpinned by a 90* rotation of the shoulders during the takeaway. In using the approach I can get the club head and shaft sit right on the shaft plane most of the time. I also utilise a one-piece takeaway.

I notice that some of the pros (e.g. Tiger) use a swing plane that is much steeper than the shaft plane. Is my observation correct? Could it be that the cameras are not in the correct position to judge the plane accurately?

I do every thing I know to get the shaft steep, and the shaft plane is as high/steep as i can get it. My question is not so much whether this is any good or better than my shaft plane 'ideal', but rather HOW do they get it on this much steeper/higher backswing plane?
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Geoff,

Could you post up a photo or vid or your dining room table set up?
 
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GeoffDickson

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Cnadon,

This is the best i can do at the moment:
SwingReader | 8 Iron | Dickson Geoff

Its actually an 'old' video...the 90* shoulder turn is (for me at least) a much more reliable swing thought than those I have specified in the notes (although they all remain relevant)...I can notice the difference between old and new, because in the new ones the angle of my left arm at the top is steeper than my shoulder angle.

The Iphone rests (just about) upright against a book-end (...be creative, you will find something that works). All you need is something to ensure your Iphone is as upright as it can be without falling forward.. Iphone sits on the edge of the table.

The height of the table is almost the same as hand height. I take great care to place my hands in the middle of the image. Imagine the centre of the camera shooting a laser through your hand parallel to the target line. These two issues are important for avoiding parallax errors and ensuring consistency.

My regular routine is to video 10 swings (about 50 seconds worth), and then convert to slow motion which takes a few minutes...whilst it is doing that I do some stretching exercises. I then add the shaft plane line. Repeat five times, so that is about 5 sets of ten or about 50 swings in total. With TV on in the background, i can easily keep myself amused for 30 mins doing this.
 
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Ringer

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Simple thought.

Point your lead elbow at your lead hip while taking the WHOLE club away.

BAM! On plane takeaway.
 
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GeoffDickson

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Brian Manzella said:
Why does your backswing need to be "on plane"?
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Short answer: Because I hit it like a dog when it is underplane.

I don't understand why it works for me. I know that alot of golfers have success with backswings on other planes.

My desire to be 'on the shaft plane' is all about not having an inside takeaway. My other belief is that a clubshaft parallel to the target line at the first parallel is not a bad place to be.

What are the negatives of having a backswing on the shaft plane?
What plane should my backswing be on?
 
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