Pitching Yips...HELP...can't take it anymore!!

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dlam

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Chap10 said:
I've had that wedge yip problem for years. I think I have it under control but I will admit it comes back and bites me occasionally. One thing I did not see mentioned that should be tried is -- hitting wedge shots with your eyes closed. This works very well and is much easier than you think. You will not yip a shot with your eyes closed (also works for putting yips). I've even played in a minor club tournament doing this. You may not hit it close but you will get it on the green. Eyes closed help you relax and then, hopefully, you can build on that. Anything that helps you relax is what you're looking for -- it can be a much longer swing (most pros argue against that), a very wristy swing (pros don't like that either), or something else. Just thinking R-E-L-A-X is not a bad place to start.
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That's interesting.
I tried it for putting and it helpsed me develop good feel with my eyes closed
It also may me stop looking at the putter head to intently
Never consider it for pitching/chipping...but I'll try it thanks
 
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Kevin Shields said:
The three biggest chipping/pitching yip mechanical flaws IMO are these. 1. Too low, too wide backswing 2. Trying to hit down too much or hold the left wrist flat 3. An "above sweetspot plane" backswing

All 3 result in a spasm toward the ball in many people, yet ironically better players can use a form of all of them
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What is above sweetspot plane backswing? Description please
 
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rogerdodger said:
What is above sweetspot plane backswing? Description please
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Hands and club above an acceptable path for the sweetspot. A nervous "dump under" is the result. A real good player can sometimes slide the club under and use the bounce this way but i wouldnt recommend it.
 
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Kevin Shields said:
Hands and club above an acceptable path for the sweetspot. A nervous "dump under" is the result. A real good player can sometimes slide the club under and use the bounce this way but i wouldnt recommend it.
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Good post. I like that "dump under" for some reason.

I always pitch it my worst when I am doing this. I can feel myself adjusting underneath in the ds. Flub thin slice.

(Too out going back, trying to help it up (mighta setup too left, or face too closed in bs), needing to add fwd shaft lean in the ds, or needing to make room for flip in ds.)

Brian says he is not huge on it but the Hogan "R finger not directed down or around, but behind the shaft/hit" tip for me is a good one here. I am a guy who has found success using the r shoulder more too though. I am not sure it is common.
 
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ricklmartin

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There is some comfort knowing that someone else suffers from this malady - mine started about 20 yrs after playing golf -what a miserable thing to have. Keep this thread going if you don't mind.....
 
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Brian Manzella

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No I haven't.


Here's the deal....you don't want to DRAG the club.

You don't want to SHOVE the club.

You don't want your arms RUNNING DOWN THE FAIRWAY.

You want to make enough swing, that you don't have to over-accelarate to reach the intended landing spot.

You HAVE TO GET THE CLUB in the other side of you quickly. But without over-accelarating.


I will upload a perfect version of a tour pitch shortly....
 
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Someone tweet @WestwoodLee the link to Brian's upcoming video ASAIU (as soon as it's up).

It's still mechanics--kinematics.
 
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Brian Manzella said:
No I haven't.


Here's the deal....you don't want to DRAG the club.

You don't want to SHOVE the club.

You don't want your arms RUNNING DOWN THE FAIRWAY.

You want to make enough swing, that you don't have to over-accelarate to reach the intended landing spot.

You HAVE TO GET THE CLUB in the other side of you quickly. But without over-accelarating.


I will upload a perfect version of a tour pitch shortly....
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This is a world class analysis. People who have trouble pitching do exactly what Brian said. They either over accelerate after a slight drag or keep the club on one side of their body too long.

A lot of pitching has to do with whether or not the club head is on the target side of the hands at the top of the swing.that sets up what force you can put on the club and when.
 
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welshdentist said:
I agree 1000% about the cause, but then the brain/conscious mind/ego fears the result.

Having been deep down the poor chipping/pitching route I can say with experience you have to work on both.

It ends up chicken and egg but poor technique leads to fear, fear leads to worsened technique.
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Good Post IMO!
 
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The original poster claims to be okay in practice,yet with a gun to his head in tournament play this breaks down! So clearly there is a technical issue,until this is sorted the 'fear factor' under pressure will be ever present! Is there any chance that the OP can post a face on and downline video of his action? Could be of interest!
 
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Brian Manzella

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Hope this helps:

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wulsy

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Brian, do you think that the in general the technique of the Europeans is more in tune with your ideas than that of the Americans?
 
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OLIVER1

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Brian and Kevin
I'm struggling to put together with what I see from Jonas Blixt (the "knifing" action of the club) with Kevin's sentence about the club being on the target side of the hands at the top of the swing.
Can you help me out a bit?
 
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