Problems with driver

[kdvols]

I am fairly new to this forum. I had a lesson with Brian in July and have been working on things from NSA and the Flipper videos. I am hitting a draw with my irons and hybrid with more distance than ever before, but I am having trouble with my driver. I either start it left with a bad hook (result is way left or even out of bounds) or I push it to the right with no bend at all. Any ideas on what I should do to correct this?

 

[rbaumgolf]

One thing that caused problems with my driver was combining the twistaway with up the wall - down the wall

I like the up the wall down the wall for my driver (without the twistaway). If Brian taught you the up the wall down the wall pattern try to exagerate it greatly to ensure you are really doing it.

I hit my longest and best drives with this routine

 

[kdvols]

Thanks for the advice. Brian had me twisting on the downswing and follow through, but not on the backswing. We worked alot on my setup to prevent a reverse pivot. I never slice anymore, but I do push my driver. Usually I hook the driver and sometimes it is a severe hook. Since I can hit my hybrid off the tee, I have wondered if I might be swinging my driver too fast on the downswing.

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

One thing that caused problems with my driver was combining the twistaway with up the wall - down the wall

I like the up the wall down the wall for my driver (without the twistaway). If Brian taught you the up the wall down the wall pattern try to exagerate it greatly to ensure you are really doing it.

I hit my longest and best drives with this routine

This is not for NSA and flipping.

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

Thanks for the advice. Brian had me twisting on the downswing and follow through, but not on the backswing. We worked alot on my setup to prevent a reverse pivot. I never slice anymore, but I do push my driver. Usually I hook the driver and sometimes it is a severe hook. Since I can hit my hybrid off the tee, I have wondered if I might be swinging my driver too fast on the downswing.

Where are the hooks starting? At, left, or right of target?

 

[kdvols]

They are starting left of target.

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

They are starting left of target.

You don't have enough tilt through impact and are coming over the top at some point in the downswing; can happen right away or even later in the downswing. Since you said Brian worked with you on getting rid of the reverse pivot, you are probably reversed on the hooks and it's hard for you to get your hips out back in front for any tilt. Now instead of the "pull fade" you were probablly hitting the twist away has made it a hook.

Fix the path by fixing the tilt

OR

While re-reading your post, you are "over leaning" in the backswing and coming very underplane on the downswing and/or trying to save the shot because you are overleaned and coming through above plane.

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Hard to know which you are doing without seeing the swing but most likely one of the two, take some video of yourself or have a friend watch and see which is the case

 

[kdvols]

Thanks for the response. I think you have narrowed down the possible causes. I will look at a video this weekend.

 

[Deadly_Scope]

You don't have enough tilt through impact and are coming over the top at some point in the downswing; can happen right away or even later in the downswing.

A curious statement. Perhaps further clarification can be given as I shall discuss this from my point of view.

The left arm and the clubhead's mass is dragged by the pivot. If your first move in the downstroke is moving the club onto the plane angle required for impact ... I would then think it is illogical to ever get above plane inorder to 'come over the top' later in the downstroke because of the forces you have set in motion.

Whats your thoughts?

 

[dannyc]

phantom turf drill, perhaps?

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

A curious statement. Perhaps further clarification can be given as I shall discuss this from my point of view.

The left arm and the clubhead's mass is dragged by the pivot. If your first move in the downstroke is moving the club onto the plane angle required for impact ... I would then think it is illogical to ever get above plane inorder to 'come over the top' later in the downstroke because of the forces you have set in motion.

Whats your thoughts?

You've never seen someone lose their tilt through impact because there wasn't enough hip slide? When this happens the club gets thrown above plane and usually comes in with a closed face. Used to happen to me alllllllllllllllll the time until it learned better.

 

[flyers66]

can you explain

You've never seen someone lose their tilt through impact because there wasn't enough hip slide? When this happens the club gets thrown above plane and usually comes in with a closed face. Used to happen to me alllllllllllllllll the time until it learned better.

Are you saying that you have never seen someone loose there tilt with proper(or too much) hip slide...meaning that with proper hip slide in the downswing it is hard to loose the tilt...hip slide helps keep the tilt? correct? otherwise, if the 1st move down is a upper body move(with no lower body hip slide), that brings the club over the plane and closes the face. right?
thnks

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

Are you saying that you have never seen someone loose there tilt with proper(or too much) hip slide...meaning that with proper hip slide in the downswing it is hard to loose the tilt...hip slide helps keep the tilt? correct? otherwise, if the 1st move down is a upper body move(with no lower body hip slide), that brings the club over the plane and closes the face. right?
thnks

It is very difficult to lose your tilt through the ball if you have created enough hip slide to begin with, it's still very possible especially if the face is very open and you lose your tilt to try and save the shot.

Yes if the first move down is an upper body type lunge you will amost always be above plane.

 

[puttmad]

Jim,
I think the difference is in how much you shorten the right side..

If you " upper body lunge" without the right side shortening, you will definitely be above plane...

However, if you shorten the right side (compress between right shoulder and hip, bend the right knee and maybe lift right heel), you can lunge as much as you like and will still be on or below plane, depending...

If by "lunge" you meant "right shoulder outwards prematurely" then I agree....