pureswing (ed z)

[diggerdog]

Ed z and others,
I purchased the pureswing and am confused. At what point i your backswing do you lose the contact with the bar or do you at all? It seems there are two choices. Swing while maintaining contact all the way to the top, then rotate it off on the downswing, or simply use the backward break of the trail wrist in the backswing, with the wrist coming off the bar, and swing down and thru keeping it off the wrist. the first option gets me more speed, but seems very timing dependent.

 

[EdZ]

the bar should stay in place, come off in downswing, back on at finish

best felt when you swing back and through, back and through without stopping, you'll quickly feel the rotation and the 'track' of the right palm up the plane, post impact

 

[EaglesNest]

I'm lost here, what Pureswing what ?

 

[hue]

quote:Originally posted by EaglesNest

I'm lost here, what Pureswing what ?

Go to

http://www.rovergolf.com/


for pureswing training device.

 

[EaglesNest]

quote:The Pure Swing™ — Develops Fast Twitch Muscles Increasing Club Head Speed.

Please....LOL

quote:The Pure Swing™ — Ingrains Proper Hand and Arm Action for Solid Ball Striking

Does it really do this ?

 

[EdZ]

one of the best aids for understanding proper forearm rotation and the relationship between the forearm/back of left hand/clubface

worth a look....

 

[diggerdog]

Ed Z,
I don't know if you own Brian's Never Slice Again, but it basically talks about setting impact hands early in the takeaway, and twisting away even further, which if done with the pureswing, immediately moves the bar off the wrist, and makes you aware of staying off thru impact or you will pull it. I think the pureswing is versatle for both ways. the only problem with Brian's suggestion is I seldom slice, but his video showed me it is because of throwaway that I go left, not a true hook move.

 

[EdZ]

agreed....

once you understand the lead forearm rotation, most folks will see how far 'over' they have been swinging (and using the body/right shoulder to try to save it, only making it worse)

the proper forearm rotation is THE biggest key for slicers to 'get', and Brian's approach goes to one extreme (twist on the backswing) to allow folks to feel the 'real' key (twist on the through swing), the proper 'inside throw' and 'roll' of the hands through impact

Hogan gets a lot of flack for being 'anti slice' moves - part of the reason - he got that forearm roll down.

Same with Miller - rolled that lead forearm HARD, as hard as he could from the top

Brian's article is very good at getting you to feel the 'post impact' feeling of proper roll, proper 'hard' roll. Once you 'get it', you have a few ways to control it - you can 'allow' the rotation back (toe up) or you can 'drive' more with the legs/body/right shoulder down (trevino)

 

[diggerdog]

Ed Z,
Just curious your sensations to swing the pureswing where it very early comes off the lead wrist and stays off at least past impact. What is your feel?

 

[EdZ]

If you are using 'twist away', your description is correct on the backswing, bar stays off pretty much most of the swing, until finish, but regardless of either twist away, or 'allowing' rotation back (bar stays on to transition), the nice thing about this aid is that the forces involved, the design of the bar angle, make certain that hip to hip forearm rotation happens. If you hands 'really' maintain the flat left/bent right (short punch/pitch), you may not feel the bar at all, but you will feel the 'roll' as the club/bar makes the hands - the 'package' rotate. I have posted a few times about a feel I like to have in my hands - that they are lightly wrapped in an ace bandage once 'set' in the backswing - and that 'entire package' rotates through the shot - when the twist away is used, the 'package' can really be felt rotating

the single biggest sensation that this aid gives that others don't is the feel of the back of the left hand, palm of the right riding 'up the rim' post impact (see Brian's slice article, clubface pointing 'down' past impact)

It will show you why Martin Hall's 'catch the raindrops' image is such a good one

(note, all of this assumes a neutral grip)