Pushed Putts
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Ryan Smither
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push: open putterface and swinging putter too far to the right...
ball position could be a factor (if you're pushing putts make sure it isn't too far back in your stance)
fix your ball position, and have someone hold a club under the putter shaft (parallel to your target line)...make sure your clubface swings SQUARE TO THE ARC...not square to the target line...Open to the targetline on the way back, and closed to the targetline past the ball...
ball position could be a factor (if you're pushing putts make sure it isn't too far back in your stance)
fix your ball position, and have someone hold a club under the putter shaft (parallel to your target line)...make sure your clubface swings SQUARE TO THE ARC...not square to the target line...Open to the targetline on the way back, and closed to the targetline past the ball...
Ryan, Swing path is only a minor issue when putting....if you focus on correct putterface angle at impact you can get away with murder with your swingpath...
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Focussing on the wrong thing as you strike the ball...focus on blade position (in your mind "match" it to where you saw it at address) as long as you know your blade address skills are correct......don't think about "straight-back, straight-through" and all that guff...
Focussing on the wrong thing as you strike the ball...focus on blade position (in your mind "match" it to where you saw it at address) as long as you know your blade address skills are correct..
....don't think about "straight-back, straight-through" and all that guff...Ryan Smither
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Ryan, Swing path is only a minor issue when putting....if you focus on correct putterface angle at impact you can get away with murder with your swingpath...
there are a TON of players that swing too far to the right with their putter...i saw 2 of them 30 minutes ago on the LPGA tour...
of course you could always manipulate the face and swing all over the place...however, i prefer a stroke with little manipulation...
Whichever way you look at it, if you are trying to govern the path of the putter, that is manipulation to some degree.
Doesn't it make sense if you are going to manipulate anything in any way at all, it is better to focus on the primary controller of the putt direction, rather than a secondary one?...
Ryan Smither
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"to some degree" being the key phrase...
my method would have less manipulation than yours...
and even less manipulation after some practice...
"to some degree" being the key phrase...
my method would have less manipulation than yours...
and even less manipulation after some practice...
But would it be as accurate?...
Ryan Smither
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Focussing on the wrong thing as you strike the ball...focus on blade position (in your mind "match" it to where you saw it at address) as long as you know your blade address skills are correct..
in other words...have a square face at impact...
REALLY?
i gave joeparr credit for knowing that much...in fact, he said in his initial post that he was looking for a bit more information than an "open or closed putter face"
that's why i talked about path...never once did i say "path is more important than the clubface"...
but for you to totally throw out the fact that path plays a role in putting is plain ignorant...
Ryan Smither
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THE PATH
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"Ryan, Swing path is only a minor issue when putting....if you focus on correct putterface angle at impact you can get away with murder with your swingpath"..
I wish you would actually read the posts properly...
The "bit more information" I was giving Joe was that there is a better way than relying on the swing path components to square the clubface up for him..simply by changing the focus during the stroke..
He asked about pushes and pulls...I gave him a solution that he can use right now, this minute and will absolutely minimise pushes and pulls...isn't that what he was asking for??..
"Ryan, Swing path is only a minor issue when putting....if you focus on correct putterface angle at impact you can get away with murder with your swingpath"..
I wish you would actually read the posts properly...
The "bit more information" I was giving Joe was that there is a better way than relying on the swing path components to square the clubface up for him..simply by changing the focus during the stroke..
He asked about pushes and pulls...I gave him a solution that he can use right now, this minute and will absolutely minimise pushes and pulls...isn't that what he was asking for??..
Ryan Smither
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okay mr. miyagi...you're right...
"Focus, Joeparr-son. Focus on face. No worry 'bout path. Just focus. Focus and no push. Focus and ball go in hole."
"Focus, Joeparr-son. Focus on face. No worry 'bout path. Just focus. Focus and no push. Focus and ball go in hole."
Garth
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Bandaids? Coolaid? Snakeoil? for Putting? Really?
LOL.. I'm half kidding. I really haven't paid much attention to this thread at all. Putting is so simple if you let it be that mucking it up with a bunch of 'swing thoughts' is just stupid. Get your arms close to your body and move your shoulders like a normal golf stroke. The ball goes pretty damn straight, so just control your distance from there.
LOL.. I'm half kidding. I really haven't paid much attention to this thread at all. Putting is so simple if you let it be that mucking it up with a bunch of 'swing thoughts' is just stupid. Get your arms close to your body and move your shoulders like a normal golf stroke. The ball goes pretty damn straight, so just control your distance from there.
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Ryan,
My average face angle at impact is 1/10th of a degree open at impact (and that was after a 10 week layoff from golf)..this is using my "snakoil" blade technique.
How do i know this, well i have had it checked by Puttlab..
If you can show me something better, go ahead boss...
okay mr. miyagi...you're right...
"Focus, Joeparr-son. Focus on face. No worry 'bout path. Just focus. Focus and no push. Focus and ball go in hole."
Ryan,
My average face angle at impact is 1/10th of a degree open at impact (and that was after a 10 week layoff from golf)..this is using my "snakoil" blade technique.
How do i know this, well i have had it checked by Puttlab..
If you can show me something better, go ahead boss...
Ryan Smither
Super Moderator
your cookie is in the mail.
Joe,
Something else which affects the direction the ball goes that you may want to consider...if you inadverdently squeeze the grip with one hand or the other coming into impact (an unconcious reaction to hitting something) it will turn the blade open or closed (left hand closes, right hand opens)
Check you are not squeezing with your right hand fingers..
The best thing is to grip the putter slightly firmer than you would with a normal golf club, which has three benefits, 1) you won't have the subconcious desire to squeeze the grip, and 2) it helps prevent any wrist movement, and 3) on longer putts because of the faster acceleration on the forwards stroke, if you have soft hands the putter tends to lag slightly behind the hands and the blade will be slightly open. Firming your grip will prevent this.
Something else which affects the direction the ball goes that you may want to consider...if you inadverdently squeeze the grip with one hand or the other coming into impact (an unconcious reaction to hitting something) it will turn the blade open or closed (left hand closes, right hand opens)
Check you are not squeezing with your right hand fingers..
The best thing is to grip the putter slightly firmer than you would with a normal golf club, which has three benefits, 1) you won't have the subconcious desire to squeeze the grip, and 2) it helps prevent any wrist movement, and 3) on longer putts because of the faster acceleration on the forwards stroke, if you have soft hands the putter tends to lag slightly behind the hands and the blade will be slightly open. Firming your grip will prevent this.
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birdie_man
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Deceleration.......Quitting..........mental tension..........
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Glad you mentioned that birdie...mental tension.....
I like to define it more as "mixed brain attention" or "too many thoughts"...Most people have too many conflicting thoughts when actually playing the stroke, which is why i simplified my technique into two sections 1) consistent rhythm (for control of the putter speed) and 2) blade angle at impact..
Fortunately, after a lot of research, I managed to combine both the above into one single swing thought, thereby defeating "mixed brain attention" etc......
Glad you mentioned that birdie...mental tension.....
I like to define it more as "mixed brain attention" or "too many thoughts"...Most people have too many conflicting thoughts when actually playing the stroke, which is why i simplified my technique into two sections 1) consistent rhythm (for control of the putter speed) and 2) blade angle at impact..
Fortunately, after a lot of research, I managed to combine both the above into one single swing thought, thereby defeating "mixed brain attention" etc......
Chris Sturgess
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....so what is the swing thought that combines them?
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