Putter Aim

[puttmad]

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The key is consistency of aim.

I'd like to correct you on that one Kluck..

The REAL key is accurate consistency at impact (we're talking about directional control here, not distance..)..
To attain that you need a procedure, or "thought procedure" that allows you to FULLY concentrate (100%) on that at impact....nothing else counts at all...
It doesn't matter (to a degree (sic)) how you set up as long as you can achieve the above at impact.....
This means you must allow your putting stroke to allow your "hands" to adjust during the forward stroke to making that perfect contact....and I want to make this perfeectly clear.....your shoulder action (tilt/turn/rock, whatever) will NOT do this automatically for you, as some people think....
Think about it. If it was automatic, then NONE of the pros, with their thousands of hours of practice, would ever pull or push a putt....and yet you all know they do it far more often than you think (most people never see the pulls and pushes on longer putts, but they are there, as sure as they are there with the shorter, more obvious putts)....
Time to stop believing in fairies and see the reality....

 

[Damon Lucas]

You must not have been around the Science and Motion people recently, Andrew.

Their advice is completely the opposite of what you said.

In fact, doing what you are saying is the most direct route to the YIPS, according to them! Now before you counter and say that you have not had one yipper and that your students are successful 99.3472% of the time, they at least have 20 years of neuroscience behind their claims.

Being condescending to Matt Kluck is a very foolish move as well!

 

[Kevin Shields]

Damon and Matt, does the putter impact the ball slightly open, like a full shot? Or do they recommend hitting the back of the ball with a square face? If I miss, it's usually kind of a drag to the left.

 

[Damon Lucas]

Doubled,

I don't believe so.
If you have an open clubface, you need a closed path(of greater magnitude).

If you're pulling putts I would check two areas:-

1. Aim - You might be aiming left and hitting it where you're aimed;
2. Your shoulders are working left(if you're a righty) through impact. Take a leaf from Crenshaw and Mickleson's book. They were both regarded as 'arc' putters, yet through impact their lead shoulder worked straight up(towards the sky).

 

[puttmad]

You must not have been around the Science and Motion people recently, Andrew.

Their advice is completely the opposite of what you said.

In fact, doing what you are saying is the most direct route to the YIPS, according to them! Now before you counter and say that you have not had one yipper and that your students are successful 99.3472% of the time, they at least have 20 years of neuroscience behind their claims.

Being condescending to Matt Kluck is a very foolish move as well!

Sorry damon, you lost me mate..
Could you elaborate please....

 

[Damon Lucas]

First of all, the condescending tone is evidenced by calling someone by their second name to make a point. Then the fairies comment indicates a complete lack of respect for the other person's knowledge. You simply would not have a clue who Matt Kluck is, and what he knows.

Now you have a horse, as Brian likes to say, and we have been pretty respectful of your right to say what you want, and sell whatever it is your horse produces.

What I am really saying is....by all means give your opinion, but just respect anybody else's right to have theirs.

Why don't you elaborate on 'how' the arms should be 'allowed' to return the clubface back to square, and the retraining thereto?

 

[puttmad]

First of all, the condescending tone is evidenced by calling someone by their second name to make a point. Then the fairies comment indicates a complete lack of respect for the other person's knowledge. You simply would not have a clue who Matt Kluck is, and what he knows.

Now you have a horse, as Brian likes to say, and we have been pretty respectful of your right to say what you want, and sell whatever it is your horse produces.

What I am really saying is....by all means give your opinion, but just respect anybody else's right to have theirs.

Why don't you elaborate on 'how' the arms should be 'allowed' to return the clubface back to square, and the retraining thereto?

Now now Damon,
I wasn't being condescending at all..and I think you'll find that is not really my style. But that doesn't prevent me from trying to clarify a point if I think I have one... I wrote the post quickly and if it seems that way I apologise...
Ref the "fairies" comment,,why shouldn't I say that if I think people are being misled by present teachings(did you miss the "smiley?")?...I only respect what I know to be true...
Take Justin Rose this past weekend...On the third round he pulled at least three putts from within 6 feet. Now he is rated as number two in performance at the moment...
So how reliable is his shoulder action at returning the blade back to the correct position?...And usually Justin is a very good putter... Do you see what I mean?..

The shoulder action was devised to return the blade to the correct position at impact.. I thing we all are aware that it doesn't do that...It has NO other purpose. I have tried to give you an alternative which is far more accurate, but unless you try it, how will you ever know?...

Re "Why don't you elaborate on 'how' the arms should be 'allowed' to return the clubface back to square, and the retraining thereto?"

Damon, I sent you my program, for "appraisal" in May of this year. I know you have been busy mate, but you'll find the answer to your question there, if you care to look...

 

[Kevin Shields]

Doubled,

I don't believe so.
If you have an open clubface, you need a closed path(of greater magnitude).

If you're pulling putts I would check two areas:-

1. Aim - You might be aiming left and hitting it where you're aimed;
2. Your shoulders are working left(if you're a righty) through impact. Take a leaf from Crenshaw and Mickleson's book. They were both regarded as 'arc' putters, yet through impact their lead shoulder worked straight up(towards the sky).

Hmmmm....interesting. Something very simple I think I can work on.Thanks.