Question about Ball Position at Address

[Richie3Jack]

With Brian's new Trackman findings showing that you should pretty much have one stationary ball position, does that apply to knockdown shots or trying to hit a high shot over trees?

If so, what does the golfer do to hit those shots? Is it more weight on one foot (i.e. more weight on the lead foot for knockdowns)? Or is it more of a follow through and finish type of deal (low follow thru on knockdowns)?




3JACK

 

[Brian Manzella]

Whoa Nellie!!

With Brian's new Trackman findings showing that you should pretty much have one stationary ball position

I did not say that at all.

I said that ball position will not have the same effect on the "designed in downward" of the club.

As I have always said, you can use one ball position for shots off the ground IF you have "moment of interia" matched clubs and you vary your delivery.

Without MOI matching, you could still have one ball position, but it will take more delivery fiddling.

My latest findings after talking to a senior physicist at a major equipment company (don't name names Mike Finney), the best way to do it is with a combination of aiming left for shots off the ground, moving the ball position back, AND adding more right wrist bend as the shot gets shorter.

 

[Richie3Jack]

My latest findings after talking to a senior physicist at a major equipment company (don't name names Mike Finney), the best way to do it is with a combination of aiming left for shots off the ground, moving the ball position back, AND adding more right wrist bend as the shot gets shorter.

I apologize, but I'm still a bit confused (probably too many hits to my noggin playing HS football).

Is that the best way to do it for all shots off the ground or just say a knockdown shot?



3JACK

 

[Guitar Hero]

My latest findings after talking to a senior physicist at a major equipment company (don't name names Mike Finney), the best way to do it is with a combination of aiming left for shots off the ground, moving the ball position back, AND adding more right wrist bend as the shot gets shorter.

Brian, You are catching on! One more step closer to the front of the pack.

combination of aiming left for shots off the ground, moving the ball position back, AND adding more right wrist bend as the shot gets shorter

Now you know why I have 20 degrees of shaft lean set for the pure swing.

 

[birdie_man]

My latest findings after talking to a senior physicist at a major equipment company (don't name names Mike Finney), the best way to do it is with a combination of aiming left for shots off the ground, moving the ball position back, AND adding more right wrist bend as the shot gets shorter.

Moving the ball back with shorter clubs?

 

[2mongoose]

From a single ball position I don't see how you can vary trajectory without manipulating the amount of forward shaft lean at impact. But......

I don't think the average tour pro is playing a knockdown from the same position as his "stock" shot i.e. he's moving it back in his stance and getting on top of the plane.

Brian said:

I said that ball position will not have the same effect on the "designed in downward" of the club.

Agree, but aren't you essentially moving low point further back which accomplishes the desired result?

Without MOI matching, you could still have one ball position, but it will take more delivery fiddling.

When you say MOI matching is that the same as a frequency matched set?

 

[shortgamer]

MOI matching is different than freq matching shafts. Google Tom Wishon for moi matching. I have some actually.

 

[2mongoose]

Thanks shortgamer. Wishon seems like golf's version of a "mad scientist" to me, but in a good way!

Definitely need to familiarize myself more with his insight.